Can prime editing fix every harmful mutation in all our cells?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the potential of prime editing and other genome editing technologies to address harmful mutations in human cells. Participants explore the efficiency, limitations, and challenges associated with these editing methods, particularly in relation to their application across different cell types and the implications of repeated treatments.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether prime editing can effectively fix every mutation in all cell types, citing a low editing efficiency of 1.82% with adeno-associated virus delivery.
  • There is a comparison made to existing gene therapies, such as Zolgensma for spinal muscular atrophy, which reportedly works in only 41% of patients due to limited DNA modification in neurons.
  • Participants express uncertainty about the variability in treatment outcomes and whether repeated treatments could enhance the effectiveness of gene editing by targeting more cells.
  • Concerns are raised about the challenges of delivering treatments to every cell and the biochemical processes involved in editing, which may not occur uniformly across all cells.
  • Some participants note that the immune response to viral delivery methods could hinder the effectiveness of repeated gene editing treatments.
  • Questions are posed regarding potential research aimed at overcoming immune responses to improve the scalability of gene editing treatments.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the effectiveness and limitations of prime editing and other gene editing methods. There is no consensus on whether these technologies can universally address harmful mutations or how to effectively implement repeated treatments.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on viral delivery methods, the variability in patient responses, and the unresolved nature of how to effectively manage immune responses to enhance treatment efficacy.

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https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.01.08.425835v1.full
Can prime editing fix every mutation in every type of cell in the body?. From what I read in the article the editing efficiency of prime editing using adeno-associated virus is 1.82%, so what prevent us from repeating the same treatment 100 times and reverse some mutation from a specific type of cell/tissue?. And what prevent us from doing it in other types of cells/tissues?.

I read about gene editing and try to understand the capabilities of current genome editing technologies like prime editing but since I don't have a significant knowledge in biology its quite hard to understand this just by reading articles.
 
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For comparison, you may like to look at some gene therapy for spinal muscular atrophy that has been approved a few years ago.
https://www.healthline.com/health/spinal-muscular-atrophy/gene-therapy-for-spinal-muscular-atrophy
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-...y-and-cost-of-muscle-wasting-treatments-68144
https://www.statnews.com/2019/05/31/spinal-muscular-atrophy-zolgensma-price-critics/

There is also a therapy for acute lymphoblastic leukemia where the patient's blood cells are taken out, genetically modified, then put back into the patient's body.
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pre...roval-brings-first-gene-therapy-united-states
 
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atyy said:
For comparison, you may like to look at some gene therapy for spinal muscular atrophy that has been approved a few years ago.
https://www.healthline.com/health/spinal-muscular-atrophy/gene-therapy-for-spinal-muscular-atrophy
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-...y-and-cost-of-muscle-wasting-treatments-68144
https://www.statnews.com/2019/05/31/spinal-muscular-atrophy-zolgensma-price-critics/

There is also a therapy for acute lymphoblastic leukemia where the patient's blood cells are taken out, genetically modified, then put back into the patient's body.
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pre...roval-brings-first-gene-therapy-united-states
So Zolgensma only works in 41 percent of the patients because it manage to change the DNA of cells in only small part of the neurons in the spine and brainstem?. If the treatment will repeat several times does it mean that the drug will replace the SMN gene in more neurons?.
 
FTM1000 said:
So Zolgensma only works in 41 percent of the patients because it manage to change the DNA of cells in only small part of the neurons in the spine and brainstem?. If the treatment will repeat several times does it mean that the drug will replace the SMN gene in more neurons?.
The 41% is the percentage that met all 3 components of ability to thrive at 18 months of age. However, if one looks at other measures the percentages are higher (eg. 55% for ability to swallow thin liquids, 86% for freedom from non-oral feeding support, 95% for CHOP motor function scores greater than 40). But you are right that there is variability. I don't know if that is due to the number of cells that received additional DNA, or other factors. If it is the number of cells, I would guess the same as you that repeating several times will add DNA to more cells (but that is only a guess). Incidentally, the treatment doesn't replace the person's existing DNA, but adds DNA to the cell.
 
atyy said:
I would guess the same as you that repeating several times will add DNA to more cells (but that is only a guess).
so the same goes to prime editing and other genome editing methods?. what prevent prime editing or other genome editing method like CRISPR from fixing every harmful mutation in the body?.
 
FTM1000 said:
so the same goes to prime editing and other genome editing methods?. what prevent prime editing or other genome editing method like CRISPR from fixing every harmful mutation in the body?.
It's hard to deliver the treatment to every cell, and even if it gets to every cell, the biochemical processes that do the editing may not occur in every cell (just because there are multiple steps involved and so many places for failures to occur).
 
One issue with performing repeated rounds of gene editing is that the editors are delivered by a virus. Presumably, the body mounts an immune response against the virus such that subsequent applications of the virus will be less effective.
 
Ygggdrasil said:
One issue with performing repeated rounds of gene editing is that the editors are delivered by a virus. Presumably, the body mounts an immune response against the virus such that subsequent applications of the virus will be less effective.
Is this the main reason for why gene editing treatments have a problem to "scale up" with repeated treatments?. There is a research about a way to overcome this problem?. There is a way to prevent the immune response to the particular virus?.
 

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