Can Satellites Break Through China's Great Firewall?

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The discussion revolves around the potential for satellites to circumvent China's Great Firewall and the broader implications of internet censorship in China. Participants explore the effectiveness of current measures, the technological arms race between the government and hackers, and the future of internet governance in China.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about China's ability to maintain control over internet access in the face of advancing technology and hacking techniques.
  • There are humorous remarks about the risks of using sensitive terms in China, highlighting the oppressive nature of the regime.
  • One participant suggests that the Chinese government may be employing hackers to counteract the Great Firewall, raising questions about the effectiveness of their censorship strategies.
  • Concerns are raised about China's shift away from international DNS standards, which could lead to a more isolated internet environment that limits access to information.
  • A participant inquires about the legality and feasibility of using satellites for internet access in China, noting that while private satellite use is illegal, it is still widespread.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the effectiveness of China's censorship measures or the potential for satellites to provide a workaround. Multiple competing views remain regarding the future of internet access in China and the implications of the government's technological adaptations.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects a variety of assumptions about the capabilities of the Chinese government, the resilience of technology, and the legal landscape surrounding internet access. There are unresolved questions about the implications of China's DNS changes and the practicalities of satellite internet use.

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Will China be able to hold back the age of information?

...He went to an Internet bar, just typed in two words, "Falun Gong." Instantly, the sirens went off. And then the police came in front of him within one minute. So that's how bad it is, because they have the ways to monitor what people are doing on the Internet, especially in the Internet bar. [continued]

However, I see no way to keep a lid on the internet. Already the Chinese find themselves in a race to keep ahead of technology that bypasses Chinese filters. And there are additional pressures as well.

I think the solution for the whole business community, to really know that it's not that they need China, but China needs them, too. They need to stick to all of us in the international business community, to stick to our principles, you know, the freedom and the democracy, and that way we can slowly force China to change, rather than China changing us.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/asia/jan-june06/china_4-18.html
 
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If the Chinese government is anything like ours, they won't be able to keep up with technology and hackers.
 
...He went to an Internet bar, just typed in two words, "Falun Gong." Instantly, the sirens went off.
That could be fun. :biggrin:

Something to look forward to the next time I go to China. :smile:
 
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It would be terribly easy to "frame" someone then. :smile:
 
Pengwuino said:
If the Chinese government is anything like ours, they won't be able to keep up with technology and hackers.
Of cource not.I wonder if the government is hireing hackers to destroy the great firewall of china.Weren't trying to recurit hackers defcon?
 
Astronuc said:
That could be fun. :biggrin:

Something to look forward to the next time I go to China. :smile:

It's good to know that you find humor in oppression.
 
Ivan Seeking said:
It's good to know that you find humor in oppression.
It's a way to fight the system. I am sure the authorities would be really pissed.

It is better to be subtle and maneuver under their radar screen, rather than direct confrontation.
 
This is why China is moving away from the IETF DNS specification's and will implement its own root domains. Right Now China has to allow everything and then block what they don't want joe blogs to see. When they implement there own dns roots they can block everything and allow what they want joe blogs to see... It will more or less "Break" the internet, and sandbox China...
 
Anttech said:
This is why China is moving away from the IETF DNS specification's and will implement its own root domains. Right Now China has to allow everything and then block what they don't want joe blogs to see. When they implement there own dns roots they can block everything and allow what they want joe blogs to see... It will more or less "Break" the internet, and sandbox China...
What about satelites? They are illegal for private use in China too, but widespread. I would like to know how to use satelites for internet connection.
 

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