Can someone help me understand the trinomial expansion?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the trinomial expansion, specifically how to find coefficients in the expansion of expressions like (1+x+x^2)^n without fully expanding them. Participants explore the conditions and equations that govern the values of indices in the multinomial expansion.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the general form of the trinomial expansion and seeks clarification on determining the values of i, j, and k for a specific case.
  • Another participant explains that the summation involves finding combinations of (i, j, k) that satisfy both the equation i+j+k = n and the condition derived from the powers of x.
  • A subsequent reply emphasizes the need to evaluate the multinomial coefficient for valid combinations of (i, j, k) that yield the desired power of x.
  • Participants discuss the specific equations j + 2k = 3 and i + j + k = 8, noting the challenge of finding unique solutions without a third equation.
  • One participant suggests that there are multiple possibilities for j and k, prompting others to explore integer values that satisfy the equations.
  • Another participant calculates potential values for j and k, leading to a coefficient of 56 for one combination, while another participant identifies an additional possibility that results in a coefficient of 112.
  • Further contributions outline a systematic approach to finding coefficients for higher powers, detailing the relationships between j, k, and i in the context of the expansion.

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Participants generally agree on the method of finding coefficients through the multinomial expansion but have not reached a consensus on the specific values of i, j, and k for the given example. Multiple competing views on the possible combinations remain unresolved.

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Participants note that the values of j and k must be non-negative integers and that the equations derived from the expansion impose certain constraints that may limit the possible solutions.

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This discussion may be useful for students or individuals seeking to understand trinomial expansions, particularly in the context of combinatorial mathematics and polynomial expressions.

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Well according to what I've read

[tex](a+b+c)^n=\sum_{i,j,k} \left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> n\\<br /> i,j,k<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)a^i b^j c^k[/tex]



[tex] \left(<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> n\\<br /> i,j,k<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)<br /> =\frac{n!}{i!j!k!}[/tex]

I understand the last equation but how would I find the values for i,j and k?

for example if I have [itex](1+x+x^2)^8[/itex] how would I find the coefficient of x^3 without expanding the entire thing out?
 
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[tex]\sum_{i,j,k}[/tex]

means to sum over all (i,j,k) from 0 to n such that i+j+k = n.
 
In other words, find (i,j,k) such that (1^i)*(x^j)*(x^2)^k = x^3 and i+j+k = 8. Then just evaluate that particular multinomial coefficient.
 
so from:(1^i)*(x^j)*(x^2)^k = x^3
j+2k=3 and i+j+k=8...but since I don't have a 3rd equation how would i find those specific values for i,j and k ?
 
There are two distinct possibilities. You will have to find both trinomial coefficients and add them together.

Hint: You know j and k are integers between 0 and 8. Just try stuff.
 
Well the only way j+2k=3 would be if j=1,k=1 and so i=6?

then the coefficient of x^3 would be 56?
 
Remember that j and/or k can also be zero, so there is one additional possibility.

You're very close, though. :)
 
Well after picking k=0 I got the coefficient to now be 112 and i think that is all i can guess j and k to be.
 
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With a= 1, b= x, [itex]c= x^2[/itex], [itex]a^ib^jc^k[/itex] is equal to [itex]1^ix^j(x^2)^k= x^{j+2k}= x^8[/itex] so j+ 2k= 8 as said before. If k= 0, j= 8. If k= 1, j= 6. If k= 2, j= 4. If k= 3, j= 2. If k= 4, j= 0. The condition that i+ j+ k= 8 gives i= 0, 1, 2, 3, and 4 respectively.

Therefore, the coefficient of [itex]x^8[/itex] is the sum of
[tex]\begin{pmatrix}8 \\ 0, 8, 0\end{pmatrix}+ \begin{pmatrix}8 \\ 1, 6, 1\end{pmatrix}+ \begin{pmatrix}8 \\ 2, 4, 2\end{pmatrix}+ \begin{pmatrix}8 \\ 3, 2, 3\end{pmatrix}+ \begin{pmatrix}8 \\ 4, 0, 4\end{pmatrix}[/tex]
 

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