Can someone say me what is the advantage of

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The discussion revolves around the advantages and technical considerations of "X" and "O" arrangements of bearings, specifically angular contact bearings, in supporting a vertical shaft under considerable load. Participants explore the implications of these arrangements in terms of stability, load capacity, and speed, while also comparing them to double-row angular contact ball bearings.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the specific orientations and applications of the "X" and "O" arrangements, suggesting that drawings may clarify the query.
  • There is a discussion about the preload and contact angle of angular contact bearings, with questions raised regarding their ability to support radial loads at higher RPMs.
  • One participant notes that the "O" arrangement is perceived as more stable but seeks clarification on its technical advantages compared to the "X" arrangement.
  • Another participant outlines three trade-offs associated with the bearing orientations: angular compliance, axial load capacity, and speed, detailing how each arrangement performs under different conditions.
  • Questions are raised about the meaning of reversing axial loads in bearings and how the discussed arrangements compare to double-row angular contact ball bearings.
  • It is noted that the choice of angular contact bearings is often driven by the presence of significant thrust loads, with the "O" arrangement accommodating loads in both directions, while the "X" arrangement is typically suited for one direction.
  • Double-row bearings are mentioned as having similar thrust load accommodation properties but are limited in speed due to design differences, and they can handle larger radial loads compared to angular contacts.

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Participants express varying opinions on the advantages of the "X" versus "O" arrangements, with no consensus reached on which is definitively better. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific applications and performance characteristics of each arrangement.

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Limitations include the need for specific application details, such as static and dynamic radial loads and RPMs, which are essential for determining the suitability of the bearing arrangements discussed.

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Can someone say me what is the advantage of "X" and "O" arrangement of bearings?

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You're going to have to be more specific in which orientations you're referring to. Perhaps a couple of drawings of the two orientations you're referring to?
 


Are you talking about the preload or contact angle with angular contact bearings? What is the application?
 


I hope the pic makes my query clear!

The purpose is to support a vertical shaft with a considerable load at the top.

Also want to know if the two angular contact bearing also supports radial loads (incase the shaft rotates at higher rpm).

I am able to understand that the O is more supportive towards stability. But I want to get clarified more in technical terms. Also, if O arrangement is more supportive, what is the necessity for X or the tandem arrangement

Regards.
 

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There are basically three tradeoffs in each of the orientations: angular compliance, axial load capacity, and speed.

a) Is stiffest in angular compliance, axial load capacity is the same as (b) but lower than (c), and will allow the highest high speed operation with proper preload.

b) Allows more angular misalignment, axial load capacity is same as (a) but less than (c), and would be for use on lower speeds than (a) (because angular stiffness is lower).

c) Allows the most angular misalignment, axial load capacity is double that of (a) and (b) (but would require a constant load in one direction), and would be for the lowest speed use.

The distance between the intersection points for the ball/race interfaces is a good gauge of how stiff the bearing combination will be against axial misalignment (larger distance means higher moment stiffness). The stiffer the bearing combination, the higher thespeed capacity (keep in mind though speed will still be limited by the bearing's internal tolerances). Note that the pictures show "ideal" bearings or matched bearings. For two bearing that aren't bought as a matched set, spacers would be required to achieve the proper race preloads.
 


Thnx.

Btw, what is meant by reversing of axial loads in bearings.

Also, how the above arrangement is better or not when compared to "Double-Row Angular Contact Ball Bearings"
 

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What exactly is the application? The main reason you would choose to go with an angular contact is if significant thrust loads are involved. The back to back <> would accomidate thrust loads moving in both directions where the >> is normal for just one. Double row bearings do have similar properties (thrust load accomidation) to the angular contacts but have to be run slower because more balls prevent the higher speeds. Double rows can take larger radial loads than angular contacts because of this as well. At a minimum you need to know what your radial load is static and dynamic, and the RPMs you plan on running at. Double rows and angulars are typically not interchangeable so specifics are needed. Also, the double rows tend to be cheaper than a set of matched angular contacts.
 

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