Can the constant term of a power series be zero?

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The discussion centers around the question of whether the constant term of a power series can be zero, particularly in the context of linear differential equations. Participants explore implications of this question for solutions to differential equations and the semantics of terms in power series.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that in their context of linear differential equations, the constant term cannot be zero, but they seek clarification on this point.
  • One participant questions whether a zero constant term would invalidate the satisfaction of the differential equation and initial conditions.
  • A specific example of a differential equation, y'' + y = 0, with initial conditions y(0) = 0 and y'(0) = 1, is provided to illustrate the discussion.
  • Another participant suggests that while a zero constant term would lead to a trivial solution, it does not necessarily mean that the only solution is trivial.
  • One participant introduces the Frobenius method and discusses how a zero constant term would alter the mathematical approach to solving the ordinary differential equation (ODE).
  • Another participant clarifies that the term "constant term" refers specifically to the coefficient of x^0 in a power series, while also noting that the first non-zero term may not be the constant term unless certain conditions are met.
  • Confusion arises regarding the distinction between the constant term and the first non-zero term in the context of power series and their solutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of a zero constant term in power series, with some asserting it cannot be zero in their specific contexts, while others argue that it can be zero under different interpretations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the broader implications of these differing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of terms used, particularly the distinction between the constant term and the first non-zero term in power series. Additionally, assumptions about the nature of solutions to differential equations are not fully explored.

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In the context of my work (linear differential equations), it can not be zero. But why?
 
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gikiian said:
In the context of my work (linear differential equations), it can not be zero. But why?

It's not clear why your context implies that the constant term cannot equal zero. If the constant term were zero, would the series not satisfy the differential equation and any associated initial conditions?
 
y'' + y = 0, y(0) = 0, y'(0) = 1.
 
I get it! It will satisfy the equation, but the solution will be a trivial one.
 
There is only one solution for the initial value problem I wrote in post #3, and it is not the trivial solution.
 
gikiian said:
In the context of my work (linear differential equations), it can not be zero. But why?
What about, say, a function ##f:\mathbb{R}\to\mathbb{R}, x\mapsto x##?
 
gikiian said:
Can the constant term of a power series be zero?
Yes. Take [itex]xe^{x}[/itex] for example:
[itex]xe^{x}[/itex]
[itex]=x(1+x+\frac{x^{2}}{2!}+\frac{x^{3}}{3!}+\frac{x^{4}}{4!}+...)[/itex]
[itex]=x+x^{2}+\frac{x^{3}}{2!}+\frac{x^{4}}{3!}+\frac{x^{5}}{4!}+...[/itex]
[itex]=0+x+x^{2}+\frac{x^{3}}{2!}+\frac{x^{4}}{3!}+\frac{x^{5}}{4!}+...[/itex]

gikiian said:
In the context of my work (linear differential equations), it can not be zero. But why?
In Frobenius method, you have [itex]y=\sum^{∞}_{n=0} a_{n}x^{n+r}=x^{r}(a_{o}+a_{1}x+a_{2}x^{2}+...)[/itex]. Now if [itex]a_{o}[/itex] becomes 0, then the series would become [itex]y=x^{r}(0+a_{1}x+a_{2}x^{2}+...)=x^{r}(a_{1}x+a_{2}x^{2}+...)=x^{r}x(a_{1}+a_{2}x+a_{3}x^{2}+...)=x^{r+1}(a_{1}+a_{2}x+a_{3}x^{2}+...)[/itex]. This would essentially change the mathematical technique that we use here to solve the ODE. Hence we 'assume' that [itex]a_{o}[/itex] can not be 0.
 
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OK, now we can see this is a question about semantics, not series solutions of differential equations.

"The constant term of a power series" means ##c_0## in the series ##c_0 + c_1x + c_2x^2 + \dots##.

But in post #7, you are just saying that every non-trivial series must have first non-zero term, and you are calling that term ##a_0##. it is the coefficient of ##x^r##. It is not the constant term of the series solution unless ##r = 0##.
 
AlephZero said:
OK, now we can see this is a question about semantics, not series solutions of differential equations.

"The constant term of a power series" means ##c_0## in the series ##c_0 + c_1x + c_2x^2 + \dots##.

But in post #7, you are just saying that every non-trivial series must have first non-zero term, and you are calling that term ##a_0##. it is the coefficient of ##x^r##. It is not the constant term of the series solution unless ##r = 0##.

I am a little confused as to what you are saying here, and would like to understand your point better. Please explain what are you trying to convey.
 

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