Can the Sun be treated as a black body radiator?

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The discussion revolves around whether the Sun, particularly its corona, can be treated as a black body radiator. Participants explore the relationship between the luminosity of the Sun and the concept of black body radiation, particularly in the context of a solar system exam question regarding energy output estimation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on how to link luminosity with black body characteristics when estimating the energy output of the Sun's corona.
  • Another participant suggests that the solar luminosity can be approximated by treating the Sun as a 6000K black body, while the corona is suggested to be around 1 million K.
  • A participant calculates the luminosity of the corona to be 1.38 x 10^32 watts and compares it to the solar luminosity of 3.9 x 10^26 watts, questioning the implications of this difference.
  • Concerns are raised about the assumption that the corona can be treated as a black body, given the calculated luminosity is significantly higher than expected.
  • One participant realizes that using the Stefan-Boltzmann law may lead to incorrect conclusions if the assumptions about the black body nature of the corona are flawed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the treatment of the corona as a black body, with some suggesting it cannot be treated as such based on the luminosity calculations, while others explore the implications of different temperature assumptions. No consensus is reached on the validity of treating the corona as a black body.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential limitations in their assumptions regarding the black body nature of the corona and the applicability of the Stefan-Boltzmann law, but do not resolve these issues.

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Hello,

I am trying to revise for my Solar System exam and going through a past paper i have a question relating to something that we don't seem to have covered:

"By estimating the energy output of the Sun's corona (in watts), comment on whether can be treated as a blackbody radiator. (Assume a coronal radius = 2Rsun)"

I understand what a blackbody is, and i understand how i can estimate the energy output of the Sun by calculating it luminosity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminosity#Computing_between_brightness_and_luminosity"

However, i don't see the link between luminosity and black body. By getting a value of x Watts how can i say yes this is black body or no it isnt?

Thanks for any help
 
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Well presumably you should know know (or you can look up) what the actual luminosity of the sun is, and you can compare it to the value you get.
 
Or you can just intuitively think that you get close to the Solar luminosity if you treat the Sun as a 6000K black body...while the corona (with more surface area since it's farther out than the photo-sphere) is more on the order of 1 million K.

What does this suggest?
 
Thanks for the replies.

nicksauce said:
Well presumably you should know know (or you can look up) what the actual luminosity of the sun is, and you can compare it to the value you get.

Yeah, its given.

I calculated the luminosity of the corona to be 1.38 x10^32
The value of the solar luminosity is given as 3.9 x10^26 - then what?

Matterwave said:
Or you can just intuitively think that you get close to the Solar luminosity if you treat the Sun as a 6000K black body...while the corona (with more surface area since it's farther out than the photo-sphere) is more on the order of 1 million K.

What does this suggest?

That it can't be treated as a black body...? Not really sure
 
So, by treating the Corona as a black body you get the answer that the luminosity would be hundreds of thousands of times brighter than the actual luminosity.

So...if the answer we get is ludicrous, then one of our assumptions must be wrong (or our math is wrong, but presumably you've checked that). Which assumption should we throw out first?
 
Matterwave said:
So, by treating the Corona as a black body you get the answer that the luminosity would be hundreds of thousands of times brighter than the actual luminosity.

So...if the answer we get is ludicrous, then one of our assumptions must be wrong (or our math is wrong, but presumably you've checked that). Which assumption should we throw out first?

Ohh yes i see. I've only just realized that I am using the "Stefan Boltzmann BLACK BODY Law" (i assumed that was the lumonosity for any body). So by using this law and getting a ridicolous answer, one of the assumptions for using the law must be wrong - ie the body is not a black body.

Cheers
 

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