Can Wave and Particle Be Separated in a Modified Double-Slit Experiment?

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The discussion revolves around the implications of modifying the double-slit experiment by introducing a partition between the barrier and the electron detector screen. Participants explore whether this modification allows for the separation of wave and particle aspects of quantum entities, particularly in the context of interpretations of quantum mechanics such as the Bohmian interpretation and de Broglie's theory.

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  • One participant proposes that adding a partition in the double-slit experiment may allow the particle to go through one slit while questioning how the wave aspect behaves in this scenario.
  • Another participant mentions that the Bohmian interpretation is the only one that separates waves and particles as distinct entities.
  • There is a suggestion that, according to Bohmian theory, the particle aspect would go through one slit while the wave aspect would go through both, potentially leading to their separation.
  • Participants discuss the experimental verification of these ideas, noting that while Bohmian theory's predictions align with standard quantum mechanics, measuring particle trajectories introduces complications that obscure the distinction between interpretations.
  • It is noted that macroscopic measuring apparatuses cannot distinguish between different microscopic interpretations of quantum mechanics, and that a weak interaction measurement could yield Bohmian trajectories, but this does not confirm the Bohmian interpretation as correct.

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Participants express differing views on the implications of the modified double-slit experiment and the interpretations of quantum mechanics. There is no consensus on whether the wave and particle aspects can be definitively separated or verified experimentally.

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The discussion highlights limitations in measuring particle trajectories due to the influence of measuring apparatuses, which complicates the interpretation of results and does not provide clear evidence for or against the Bohmian interpretation.

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If the 2-slit experiment is modified by adding apartition between the barrier and the electron detector screen, forming 2 compartiments, the particle willgo in one of the slit, but what about the wave? If it slill goes through the 2 slits,will the wave and the particle be separated? If not, how will it know a partition has been added?
 
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Thank you Demystifier,
so if i understood you ,according to the Bohmian theory,in the case i described, using a photon, the particle aspect would go through one slit and the wave aspect through both? So that they would be separated.
Could this be verified experimentally?
 
And also de Broglie's theory (from which Bohmian theory arose). De Broglie, from what I've read, found Bohmian theory interesting but did not necessarily endorse it. Instead he continued to develop and re-think or clarify his own theory.
 
C. Bernard said:
Thank you Demystifier,
so if i understood you ,according to the Bohmian theory,in the case i described, using a photon, the particle aspect would go through one slit and the wave aspect through both? So that they would be separated.
Yes.

C. Bernard said:
Could this be verified experimentally?
Yes and no. Namely, the measurable predictions of Bohmian theory are the same as those of standard theory without particle trajectories. Particle trajectories cannot be measured in practice. Namely, if you try to measure trajectory, you must introduce interaction with a measuring apparatus. The interaction disturbs the wave function in a very complicated way, so the resulting trajectory (depending on the wave function) is very different from the trajectory without interaction that you wanted to measure. In fact, it can be shown that the influence of the measuring apparatus is such that the measured trajectory will always look as a classical trajectory, which is a consequence of the fact that a measuring apparatus is always a macroscopic object. But that result can be obtained even without the Bohmian theory. In other words, macroscopic apparatuses cannot distinguish different microscopic interpretations of quantum mechanics. A microscopic apparatus could, in principle, distinguish different interpretations, but in practice there is no such thing as microscopic measuring apparatus.

Another idea is to use a macroscopic apparatus with a very weak interaction, which does not disturb the wave function. Such a measurement is not a true measurement in the usual sense, but when one uses it to measure particle trajectories, one really gets Bohmian trajectories. But still, even standard quantum theory predicts that such a measurement will get Bohmian trajectories, so such a measurement does not prove that the Bohmian interpretation is right. For more details see
https://www.physicsforums.com/blog.php?b=3077
 
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