Can we apply dynamics/system/chaos theory to the world?

In summary, there are various theories that deal with systems in an abstract way, such as dynamical system theory, ergodic theory, chaos theory, and complex systems. These theories have advanced mathematical results, but their practical applications are still uncertain. While they provide explanations for observed behavior, it is unclear if they can truly make a difference in our lives. The question remains whether these theories can be applied to real-world systems and provide information that can help us make better decisions. Despite the uncertainty, it is important to continue researching and learning about these theories, as they may prove useful in unexpected ways in the future.
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There are theories dealing with "systems" in an abstract general way, such as dynamical system theory (graph, topological), ergodic theory, chaos theory, catastrophe theory, complex systems, ...
All these theories have advanced mathematical results - mostly about existence or non-existence of properties. Many provide visually or conceptually nice examples.

But will these theories ever improve our life? I mean apart from giving justifications for behaviour we observe, will these theories make a difference?

I try to explain a bit more. Chaos theory can tell us that the weather is chaotic, but what can we now do about it with that knowledge? Can we detect chaoticity maybe and manipulate a system until we reach a non-chaotic regime? Or do methods of chaos theory only give statements once the exact mathematical model is known?

Can either of these theories be applied to a system like the financial market to make a prediction that can really make a difference (rather than explaning what has happened and what we now know anyway)?

In population dynamics, how can the models help us to make a difference if we wish to?

Or what do the models of disease spread give us? We know by observation that diseases can spread very quickly anyway. Do we need to knowledge from the mathematical models?

My important question is:
Which results from the "general theories of systems" give us some information to make better decisions, rather than just provide only an understanding the behaviour that we can observe anyway

I'm not a mathematician, but I might read up some topic, if I find good answers here :smile:
 
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You can never know in advance whether a model is applicable at some time or not. QM didn't look useful at all, and then came semiconductors. GR was for theorists, and now we have GPS.

Many of these models you named are already applied to e.g. financial markets. You just don't know as long as you don't work e.g. for the Fed or a fund manager.

Geometry was an abstract and theoretical building for centuries, if not milleniums, before wave functions were used to explain physics and its applications in our modern world.

If we only would research on demand, we would always be behind. You don't construct a screwdriver when you needed it, you have it in your toolbox. And, yes, there will be probably some tools you never actually used. So?
 
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1. Can dynamics/system/chaos theory be applied to all systems?

No, dynamics/system/chaos theory can only be applied to certain types of systems that exhibit non-linear behavior. Linear systems, such as simple pendulums, can be described using traditional mathematical methods.

2. How does dynamics/system/chaos theory differ from traditional theories?

Dynamics/system/chaos theory focuses on the behavior of complex, non-linear systems and how small changes in initial conditions can lead to drastically different outcomes. Traditional theories often rely on linear equations and assume predictable outcomes.

3. Is it possible to predict the behavior of a chaotic system?

No, it is not possible to predict the exact behavior of a chaotic system due to its sensitivity to initial conditions. However, we can use probability and statistical methods to make predictions about the behavior of chaotic systems.

4. How is chaos theory relevant to real-world applications?

Chaos theory has been applied in various fields, such as meteorology, economics, and biology. It has also led to the development of new technologies, such as chaos-based communication systems and cryptography.

5. Can we use dynamics/system/chaos theory to solve complex problems?

Dynamics/system/chaos theory can provide insights and understanding into the behavior of complex systems, but it cannot be used as a problem-solving tool. It is a descriptive theory rather than a prescriptive one.

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