Can we calculate probabilities without assuming independence?

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

This discussion focuses on calculating probabilities involving John and Mary attending UCLU without assuming independence. The probabilities given are: John attending UCLU at 1/5, attending another university at 1/3, and Mary attending UCLU at 1/4. It is established that while calculations typically assume independence, real-life scenarios often present dependencies, such as motivation influenced by family decisions. The conversation also clarifies that mutually exclusive events, like John's attendance at multiple universities, indicate a strong form of dependency.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of basic probability concepts
  • Familiarity with independent and dependent events
  • Knowledge of mutually exclusive events
  • Ability to perform probability calculations
NEXT STEPS
  • Study conditional probability to understand dependencies
  • Explore Bayesian probability for real-life applications
  • Learn about joint probability distributions
  • Investigate the implications of mutual exclusivity in probability theory
USEFUL FOR

Students of statistics, data analysts, and anyone interested in understanding complex probability scenarios involving dependencies and mutual exclusivity.

phospho
Messages
250
Reaction score
0
The probability that john will go to UCLU is estimated at 1/5; the probability that he will go to some other university is 1/3. The probability that his sister Mary will go to UCLU is 1/4. Calculate the probabilities that:

a) John and Mary both go to UCLU;
b) John will not go to university;
c) either John or Mary but not both will go to UCLU

Is it possible to do a) without assuming that they are independent events? Are we allowed to just assume that events are independent? In real life John going to university surely is not independent of his sister going university. E.g. if John goes UCLU then his sister, may be more motivated to study harder and thus go into UCLU...?

Also, if two events are not independent, does it mean they are dependent?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
You are correct: to solve the problem you need to assume the events are independent, though in real life they may not be. Yes, if they're not independent then they are in some way dependent.
 
phospho said:
The probability that john will go to UCLU is estimated at 1/5; the probability that he will go to some other university is 1/3. The probability that his sister Mary will go to UCLU is 1/4. Calculate the probabilities that:

a) John and Mary both go to UCLU;
b) John will not go to university;
c) either John or Mary but not both will go to UCLU

Is it possible to do a) without assuming that they are independent events? Are we allowed to just assume that events are independent? In real life John going to university surely is not independent of his sister going university. E.g. if John goes UCLU then his sister, may be more motivated to study harder and thus go into UCLU...?

Also, if two events are not independent, does it mean they are dependent?

Just to clarify: the two events involving John alone are mutually exclusive (unless John can attend two universities at the same time). Mutual exclusiveness is about as dependent as you can get.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
5K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
4K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
3K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
7K
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
5K