Can you prove anything using the Scientific Method?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the nature of the scientific method (SM) and its ability to prove or demonstrate truths in scientific inquiry. Participants explore the differences between proving and showing, the role of experimental evidence, and the distinctions between inductive and deductive reasoning within the context of scientific practice.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that the scientific method cannot prove anything to be true, similar to how mathematics relies on unprovable axioms.
  • Others contend that the scientific method is about developing theories that align with observations and making predictions, rather than proving truths.
  • There is a discussion about whether the scientific method shows that phenomena, such as exoplanets, actually exist, with some asserting that evidence can show existence without proving it.
  • Participants debate the meanings of "prove" and "show," with one suggesting that they are synonymous, while others emphasize the distinction between inductive and deductive reasoning.
  • Some participants express confusion about the differences between inductive and deductive reasoning, seeking clarification and examples related to physics.
  • One participant references a source claiming that the scientific method employs both deductive and inductive reasoning, challenging the notion that it is purely inductive.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the role of the scientific method in proving truths, with multiple competing views on its nature and effectiveness remaining throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the definitions and implications of proving versus showing in scientific contexts, as well as the roles of inductive and deductive reasoning in the scientific method.

  • #61
Varsha Verma said:
I don't think Relativity improved Newtons Gravity. It REPLACED it completely.
You build a house that suits you very well and has all the facilities you wanted. Later on, you build an extension with two extra bedrooms and a new front reception room. The original parts of the house still function perfectly fine; you can just entertain more of your family members. Does that mean you have completely REPLACED the house?
I am not sure what you want out of this thread. What are you trying to assert or prove? Are we just having a semantic problem?
 
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  • #62
Varsha Verma said:
Well, that is not what the world's best science university Berkeley says: https://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/0_0_0/whatisscience_04

Here what they say, they mean the scientists at Berkeley who are the best in the world: "Science as a collective institution aims to produce more and more accurate natural explanations of how the natural world works, what its components are, and how the world got to be the way it is now. "

So, it is clear that the the purpose of science is to find what the components of the world, meaning the universe. That clearly means that the purpose of science IS to find what ultimately the universe is made up of.
I think you need to brush up on your Comprehension Skills Varsha. Your "clear" conclusion is just not valid. You are trying to fit what is written to your belief. The first paragraph makes it quite clear what they are trying to do and it ain't what you claim.
"Science as a collective institution aims to produce more and more accurate natural explanations of how the natural world works, what its components are, and how the world got to be the way it is now."
You can go closer and closer to c but you cannot expect to get there. No one would be chasing that goal, either.
 
  • #63
At this point the thread has run its course, so it is now closed.
 

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