Can You Really Grasp the Concept of the Fourth Dimension?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of the fourth dimension, exploring its definition and implications in various contexts, particularly in relation to time and spatial dimensions. Participants engage in clarifying what constitutes a dimension and how the fourth dimension is understood in the framework of physics, especially in the context of Einstein's theories.

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  • Some participants propose that the fourth dimension is commonly understood as time, particularly in the context of Einstein's space-time unification.
  • Others argue that dimensions can be defined differently depending on the context, suggesting that there are multiple interpretations of what constitutes a dimension.
  • A participant elaborates on the nature of dimensions by explaining how one-dimensional, two-dimensional, and three-dimensional spaces are defined, and how time can be integrated as a fourth dimension in certain problems.
  • There is a suggestion that in four-dimensional space-time, events are identified by four coordinates, incorporating time as an essential component alongside spatial dimensions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying interpretations of the fourth dimension, with some agreeing on its association with time while others highlight the contextual nature of dimensional definitions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding a singular definition of the fourth dimension.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects limitations in the definitions of dimensions and the assumptions underlying different interpretations. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in integrating time as a dimension alongside spatial dimensions.

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What is the fourth dimension can anybody explain it to me ?
 
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It is the dimension after the third... not just being cute here. Before you ask this question you need to answer the question, "What is a dimension?" and there are different answers in different context.

We observe three spatial degrees of freedom for an object's position and so we say there are three spatial dimensions. If you consider further degrees of freedom of an object then you can add dimensions. For example a rigid body has six "dimensions" of motion, the three spatial positions plus three parameters of rotational orientation.

Typically people refer to the "fourth dimension" when thinking of time when we consider Einstein's space-time unification which occurs with his Special and General Theory of Relativity.
 
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To expand a bit on DEvens's answer...

We all agree that a straight line is a one-dimensional object. I can identify any point on the line with a single number, the distance from the origin (we'll use negative numbers for points to the left of the origin, positive for points to the right).

Likewise, a plane is two-dimensional. I can identify any point on a plane with two numbers, the classic x and y coordinates of the Cartesian plane that you've learned about in your first year of algebra.

It takes three numbers to identify a point in the three-dimensional space around us; if I'm in a room I can use the Cartesian x and y to identify a point on the floor, but I need a third number to specify the height above the floor (we usually call this "z" because that's the next letter after "x" and "y"). That's why we say that we live in a three-dimensional space.

However, it turns out to be very convenient in some problems to think of time as a fourth dimension. There's a spot on the floor, right under my foot - we'll say that it in three-dimensional space it is the point x=0, y=0, z=0 (zero meters away from me left and right, zero meters away from me forwards and backwards, zero meters above or below the floor). Say I tap my foot on the floor, wait three seconds, then tap my foot on the floor again. Using the language of time as a fourth dimension, we would say that the first foot-tap happened in four-dimensional space-time at the point x=0,y=0,z=0,t=0 and the second foot-tap happened at the point x=0,y=0,z=0,t=3. (To avoid confusion, we usually call points in four-dimensional space-time "events" and reserve the words "point" and "position" for three-dimensional space).
 
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