Can You Truly Become the Best Physicist of All Time?

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The discussion revolves around the aspiration to become the "best physicist of all time," exploring the realism and implications of such a goal. Participants engage with the concept from various angles, including personal motivations, the nature of scientific contribution, and the subjective nature of "being the best." The conversation includes philosophical reflections on the purpose of pursuing physics and the challenges of making significant contributions in a well-established field.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that the desire to be the best may hinder genuine scientific inquiry and discovery.
  • Others suggest that the notion of being the "best" is subjective and dependent on personal and community perspectives.
  • A few participants emphasize that significant contributions to physics are typically made within a collaborative community rather than by individuals alone.
  • There are comments reflecting on the historical context, noting that making groundbreaking contributions akin to those of Einstein or Newton is increasingly unlikely due to the vast amount of established knowledge in physics.
  • Some participants propose that a more meaningful goal might be to inspire others or to contribute positively to the field rather than seeking personal accolades.
  • Humorous and sarcastic remarks are made regarding the idea of competing for the title of "best physicist," including references to fictional challenges and quests.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express skepticism about the feasibility of becoming the "best physicist of all time," with multiple competing views on the motivations behind such aspirations. The discussion remains unresolved, with no consensus on the validity or implications of the original claim.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the difficulty of pursuing physics for the wrong reasons, suggesting that motivation plays a crucial role in success in the field. The conversation also touches on the evolving nature of physics and the challenges of making significant contributions in a mature scientific landscape.

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I want to become the best physicist of all times.
is this unrealistic?
 
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Yes it is.
 
I suppose "wanting to be the best" itself is the greatest obstacle to be really the best. The best just happens to be...
 
revnaknuma said:
I want to become the best physicist of all times.
is this unrealistic?

Respectfully, the nature of your aspiration circumvents the greatest purpose in becoming a physicist, that purpose being, discovery and greater depth in applying physics principles presently perceived as fully comprehended.

The title of exalting prominence for which you deem desirous will, in all probability, remain a subjective matter, as polls continually reveal a multitude of physicists who have been selected as “the best physicist of all times” by the individuals participating in such polls and rightfully so, as no single physicist presented all that is presently known, rather, it is the culmination of contributions by countless physicists that have directed humanity’s path on its present course of enlightenment.
 
revnaknuma said:
I want to become the best physicist of all times.
is this unrealistic?

Yes. It's also not really possible. Physics is advanced by a community, with some members making larger contributions, but no one member independent of the rest.
 
You could start by limiting it to "best physicist that inhabits my body" and maybe eventually expand from there.

In general it's a silly notion, although yearning to be good at physics for advancement of physics itself or having a passion for physics is a good thing.
 
revnaknuma said:
I want to become the best physicist of all times.

That could be a paradox. When you become the best physicist, you may realize that the definition of time is not what you thought it was(?).
 
i seriously doubt any of the people who might be considered the "best physicist of all time" ever had such a silly notion as this. In fact, i'll go as far to say that most who have this notion will never even BE a physicist to begin with.
 
It's also much less possible today to make Einstein- or Newton-like contributions to physics. So much more stuff is known for pretty much sure and with the complexity of even very niche fields of research, you can be quite happy if you contribute something important at all.

Before Einstein, Bohr, Heisenberg, Maxwell & co. understanding of space and time was pretty much wrong. After them, you can calibrate our view and improve its accuracy, but the chance that our physics is fundamentally wrong is next to nonexistent.
 
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It's also much less possible today to make Einstein- or Newton-like contributions to physics. So much more stuff is known for pretty much sure and with the complexity of even very niche fields of research, you can be quite happy if you contribute something important at all.

Before Einstein, Bohr, Heisenberg, Maxwell & co. understanding of space and time was pretty much wrong. After them, you can calibrate our view and improve its accuracy, but the chance that our physics is fundamentally wrong is next to nonexistent.
 
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My goal is the be the worst physicist who still won a Nobel prize.

Think I can do it?
 
  • #12
pergradus said:
My goal is the be the worst physicist who still won a Nobel prize.

Think I can do it?

Well I've already got one in mind for that prize, it would take something special to beat them. I shan't name them as it would be a personal insult.
 
  • #13
revnaknuma said:
I want to become the best physicist of all times.
is this unrealistic?

Yes.
 
  • #14
I think a good goal would be to reach a point where you inspire others to pursue physics. Make a difference in someone's life that way and you'll be at the least what all physicists should be.

S_Happens said:
You could start by limiting it to "best physicist that inhabits my body" and maybe eventually expand from there.

In that case, isn't revnaknuma already there?
 
  • #15
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What is it people who want to be the best all the time. What happened to "I want to be a physicist because I enjoy it..." I think trying to be the best in physics in kind of counterproductive, because you refuse to see your mistakes all the time. And those people become crackpots. You don't want to be a crackpot, rev...
\end{rant}
 
  • #16
revnaknuma said:
I want to become the best physicist of all times.
is this unrealistic?

If that is your reason to want to be a physicist, I don't think you'll even make it to just being a physicist, much less, the "best physicist of all times".

Physics is too difficult to do for the wrong reasons. And you have the wrong reason.

Zz.
 
  • #17
revnaknuma said:
I want to become the best physicist of all times

For the sake of discussion... why?
 
  • #18
Not while I'm around.
 
  • #19
Don't listen to all the haters, once you become level seven physicist, you can challenge the master in your region to a duel to the death and if you win, you get the local title.

Then to become a grandmaster, you must first reach level 11 and slay a dragon without using the electromagnetic force.

Finally, you must challenge and defeat one and only grandmaster of physics (not sure if it's Chuck Norris or Charlie Sheen).

The rumor is that there are no dragons anymore, but good luck on your quest adventurer!
 
  • #20
Don't disclose your intentions so early ... :devil:
 
  • #21
revnaknuma said:
I want to become the best physicist of all times.
is this unrealistic?

You could do it 2 simple steps:

First you become the second best physicist.
Next, you need to kill me.

One of those steps must be easy.
 
  • #22
Yo OP I'm really happy for you, and I'll let you finish, but Einstein was the best physicist of all time!
 
  • #23
Just do your thing, man. Go to school, study, learn what you can. Enjoy the road. A much more realistic goal would be "I want to be a good enough physicist to support myself and a family, while still studying something I love".
 
  • #24
revnaknuma said:
I want to become the best physicist of all times.
is this unrealistic?

It's not a competition.
 

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