Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the classification of physicists researching complex systems and nonlinear dynamics, specifically whether they belong to the condensed matter physics community or represent a distinct field within physics. The scope includes theoretical perspectives and the academic categorization of researchers in this area.
Discussion Character
- Debate/contested
- Conceptual clarification
Main Points Raised
- Some participants suggest examining the departments, courses, and journals associated with researchers like Mark Newman, Jim Crutchfield, Doyne Farmer, and David Wolpert to determine their classification.
- It is noted that some researchers in complex systems publish in journals such as Physical Review E and Journal of Complex Networks, which may indicate their alignment with specific fields.
- One participant proposes consulting experienced condensed matter physicists who are familiar with the literature and events to gain insight into the classification of these researchers.
- Historical figures in nonlinear dynamics, such as Feigenbaum, Lorenz, and Takens, are mentioned as having been classified as separate from condensed matter physics during their time, suggesting a historical precedent for such distinctions.
- Stephen Strogatz and his collaborators are characterized as applied mathematicians, indicating that nonlinear dynamics and complexity may also be viewed through the lens of applied mathematics rather than strictly physics.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express differing views on whether researchers in complex systems should be classified within the condensed matter physics community or as part of a separate field. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple perspectives presented.
Contextual Notes
Participants highlight the importance of academic affiliations and publication venues in determining the classification of researchers, but there is no consensus on the implications of these factors.