Canceling out low frequencies noises (subwoolfers)

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The discussion revolves around strategies for canceling out low-frequency noise from a neighbor's subwoofer, focusing on practical solutions and theoretical approaches. Participants explore various methods, including soundproofing, noise cancellation techniques, and alternative suggestions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest soundproofing foam as a potential solution, while others argue that it may not be effective if the noise travels through walls.
  • There is a discussion about the impracticality of active noise cancellation, with some noting that it would need to occur at the source or at the listener's ears.
  • One participant proposes using an array of speakers along the wall to absorb sound energy, but this is challenged as impractical based on past experiences in industrial settings.
  • A humorous suggestion involves using an elliptical reflector dish to redirect sound, though its practicality is questioned.
  • Another participant shares a construction technique involving staggered studs and decoupling sheet-rock to reduce sound transmission, particularly for low frequencies.
  • There are mentions of alternative approaches, such as talking to the neighbor or decreasing air pressure in the room, but these are presented with varying degrees of seriousness.

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Participants express a range of opinions, with no consensus on the most effective solution. Some methods are deemed impractical, while others are suggested as potential options without clear agreement on their effectiveness.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific techniques and experiences, but there are limitations in the discussion regarding the effectiveness of proposed solutions and the assumptions underlying their practicality.

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Here's an interesting problem that might be best solved by physics:

Lets say your neighbors insist on using a loud subwoolfer late at night, it travels through your appartment walls and keeps you up all night. What would be a good way to cancel out the noise, other than earphones?
 
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The police?

You could try soundproofing foam, I don't see what else you could do if it's going through your walls.
 
If you're thinking of cancellation, it is quite impractical. You would have to do it at the source (he'd notice) or at your ears (if you're willing to wear headphones, that already solves the problems. Most localities (and leases) have noise rules. Check that out.
 
TVP45 said:
If you're thinking of cancellation, it is quite impractical. You would have to do it at the source (he'd notice) or at your ears (if you're willing to wear headphones, that already solves the problems. Most localities (and leases) have noise rules. Check that out.

Or it could be done with an array of speakers along the wall.
 
John Creighto said:
Or it could be done with an array of speakers along the wall.

No, that won't work. All this was tried in the metal slitting industries decades ago. It really is impractical.
 
haha i knew someone would bring up the police

so there doesn't really sound like much that can be done besides soundproofing my walls.

are there any type of smaller headphones that do noise cancellation?
 
I would say your best bet is more revenge, an elliptical reflector dish. Take note of the xkcd comic that follows (http://www.xkcd.com/316/) Use the dish and the focal point to both redirect their sound and also after they fall asleep use your own sub too bass them back away. If your landlord, or neighbors complain, well then you may need another solution.
 
TVP45 said:
No, that won't work. All this was tried in the metal slitting industries decades ago. It really is impractical.

If the speakers cover every wall and ceiling then should in theory they be able to absorb the sound energy. I didn´t say it was practical.
 
Mthees08 said:
I would say your best bet is more revenge, an elliptical reflector dish. Take note of the xkcd comic that follows (http://www.xkcd.com/316/) Use the dish and the focal point to both redirect their sound and also after they fall asleep use your own sub too bass them back away. If your landlord, or neighbors complain, well then you may need another solution.


That sounds by the far the most practical way to solve this delema. haha thanks.
 
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TVP45 said:
No, that won't work. All this was tried in the metal slitting industries decades ago. It really is impractical.

link to some information?
 
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ice109 said:
link to some information?

I'll have to do some digging. The guy I knew who worked on that is long dead.
 
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You could always just go talk to the guy and tell him it's bothering you. That's better than calling the police over it.

Other than that, you could decrease the air pressure in the room you are in :D
 
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When I was a quality-control inspector for commercial construction, a common way to reduce sound transmission was to use 2x6 plates and headers, and stagger the 2x4 studs so that the 2x4s holding the sheet-rock in one room were not coupled to the 2x4s holding the sheet rock in the adjoining room. Simply thread fiberglass insulation horizontally back and forth between the staggered studs to help reduce noise. Decoupling the sheet-rock walls was key, especially with lower frequencies. The walls were still coupled somewhat at the floor and ceiling, but excursion of the sheet-rock was very limited, so that low-frequency sounds were heavily attenuated. I learned this technique from the owner of a motel who had rooms adjoining a very popular dance-hall with live music every Friday and Saturday night.
 

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