Effect of noise cancelling audio equipment

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effects of noise cancelling audio equipment, specifically focusing on the differences between noise cancelling and noise isolating earbuds/headphones. Participants explore the implications of these technologies on hearing health, the concept of "noise floor," and the overall auditory experience in various environments.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants explain that noise cancelling technology actively produces sound waves to cancel out ambient noise, while noise isolation simply blocks sound.
  • There is a question about whether the sound waves generated by noise cancelling headphones actually reduce the decibel level experienced by the ears.
  • One participant shares personal experience with hearing loss related to working with audio equipment but expresses confidence in using noise cancelling headphones safely due to built-in limiters.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential for increased "noise floor," which may lead to a perception of louder ambient volume in quiet environments.
  • Some participants suggest that using noise cancelling headphones in noisy environments, such as airplanes, is more appropriate than testing them in silence.
  • There is a request for scientific verification regarding the effects of noise cancelling technology on hearing health.
  • One participant argues that the sound waves cancel each other out, implying that noise cancelling headphones should not negatively impact hearing as long as music is not played at high volumes.
  • A link to information about destructive interference is provided, explaining the technical goal of noise cancelling headphones.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of viewpoints regarding the impact of noise cancelling technology on hearing health. While some believe it is safe and potentially beneficial, others question the effects of increased noise floor and the lack of scientific evidence. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views present.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in their understanding of the science behind noise cancelling technology and its effects on hearing, highlighting a lack of consensus on the implications of increased noise floor and the conditions under which these devices are used.

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Noise cancelling earbuds/headphones differ from noise isolating earbuds/headphones. Noise isolation just keeps the sound out, whereas noise cancellation actively produces sound in order to "cancel" noise.I understand how this works technologically, however do these sound waves cancel out so that your ears are subjected to reduced decibels? I have tried a friend's pair. When nothing is going on, you hear lots of "static"-like noises. No doubt this is the earbuds trying to cancel ambient sound.

Anyhow, I'm wondering if this is good for your hearing, and not just for listening to better music. Can the extra sound waves generated actually increase the ambient volume?
 
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Yes, at your ear, it should be less dbm's. Yes, they are canceled out at the exact spot going into your ear. I lost hearing in one ear working on this stuff, but during actual operation, there are limiters and such to keep it safe. I would use them without worry.
 
CookieSalesman said:
...however do these sound waves cancel out so that your ears are subjected to reduced decibels? I have tried a friend's pair. When nothing is going on, you hear lots of "static"-like noises. No doubt this is the earbuds trying to cancel ambient sound.
Anyhow, I'm wondering if this is good for your hearing, and not just for listening to better music. Can the extra sound waves generated actually increase the ambient volume?
Yes, depending on the system you might hear an increased "noise floor." But listening with no music in a quiet environment is an unfair test-they are designed for use in noisy places like a plane while listening. I can't imagine problems to your hearing, it should make for less fatigue, BUT again systems vary in their quality.
 
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Thanks. So what is this "noise floor"? Does this mean the ambient volume my ears truly hear is louder than usual? Suppose I am planning to buy a very good, very expensive set of noise isolating earbuds. Is there science that can verify if these are good for my hearing or bad?
 
CookieSalesman said:
Thanks. So what is this "noise floor"? Does this mean the ambient volume my ears truly hear is louder than usual? Suppose I am planning to buy a very good, very expensive set of noise isolating earbuds. Is there science that can verify if these are good for my hearing or bad?
Noise floor would be a slight background hiss that you might hear from the headphones if you were in a quiet room with no music playing.
 
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Noise floor would be a slight background hiss that you might hear from the headphones if you were in a quiet room with no music playing.
Thanks. But how about the effects of noise cancellation on my ears?
"Is there science that can verify if these are good for my hearing or bad?" I haven't heard much from people about the actual science of this. Is this "noise floor" or ambient volume actually louder than the non-actively-cancelled ambience?
 
I would have though that the most you would experience from using these in a quiet environment is a low volume white noise.
It seems to me unlikely that this might damage (or for that matter improve) your hearing in any way.
They aren't doing anything to your biochemistry or nervous system.
 
CookieSalesman said:
Thanks. But how about the effects of noise cancellation on my ears?
"Is there science that can verify if these are good for my hearing or bad?" I haven't heard much from people about the actual science of this. Is this "noise floor" or ambient volume actually louder than the non-actively-cancelled ambience?
The sound waves cancel each other out which is effectively the same as no sound in the first place. They are good for your hearing as long as you aren't listening to your music loudly. The Wiki article on Noise Cancelling Headphones has more pros and cons. Here is a six page article on the the details - How Noise Cancelling Headphones work.
Again, the floor noise is very minor. You would have to be in a quiet room with no music playing to even notice it.
 
Here's a link on destructive interference. The ultimate goal of noise cancelling headphones is to duplicate the outside noise with a signal that is 180 degrees out of phase and mix it in.
 
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Thanks. So I'll be planning on buying some noise cancelling earbuds.
 

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