Canoeing: Speed Relative to Water and Shore

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving two canoeists paddling in a river, where one is moving upstream and the other downstream. The velocities of the canoes are given relative to an observer on shore, and the participants are tasked with determining the speed of the water relative to the shore as well as the speeds of the canoes relative to the water.

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  • Participants discuss the method of calculating the speed of the water by combining the velocities of the canoes. Questions arise regarding the correct approach to determine the speeds of the canoes relative to the water.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their thoughts on how to approach the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for diagrams and attempts to solve the problem, but there is no explicit consensus on the methods to be used.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the need to understand relative velocities and the implications of upstream and downstream directions. There is an indication of homework rules that may limit the type of assistance provided.

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I'm having trouble with this can anyone help me?
Two canoeists in identical canoes exert the same effort paddling and hence maintain the same speed relative to the water. One paddles directly upstream (and moves upstream),
whereas the other paddles directly down-stream. With downstream as the positive
direction, an observer on shore determines the velocities of the two canoes to be −1.3 m/s
and 2.9 m/s, respectively.
What is the speed of the water relative toshore? Answer in units of m/s.

What is the speed of the first canoe relativeto the water? Answer in units of m/s.

What is the speed of the second canoe relative to the water? Answer in units of m/s.
 
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Sounds like homework to me.

Have you drawn any diagrams? Made any attempt at the problem?
 
i got the speed of the water relative to the shore by adding the two numbers together and then divided by two to get the speed relative to the shore.
what i don't understand is how you figure out the speeds of the canoes
 
would i subract the speed of the water from the velocities given in the original equation?
 

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