How Do Canoeists' Velocities Reveal Water Speed and Their Effort?

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The discussion centers on determining the speed of water relative to shore and the speed of two canoeists relative to the water. Given the velocities of the upstream and downstream canoeists as -1.2 m/s and +2.9 m/s, respectively, the speed of the water can be calculated using the formula: water speed = (downstream speed + upstream speed) / 2. This results in a water speed of 0.85 m/s. Consequently, the speed of the upstream canoe relative to the water is 0.65 m/s, while the downstream canoe's speed relative to the water is 3.75 m/s.

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Ok, I can not get the answer to this question!

Two canoeists in identical canoes exert the same effort paddling and hence maintain the same speed relative to the water. One paddles directly upstream (and moves upstream), whereas the other paddles directly downstream. With downstream as the positive direction, an observer on shore determines the velocities of the two canoes to be -1.2 m/s and +2.9 m/s, respectively.

(a) What is the speed of the water relative to shore?
m/s
(b) What is the speed of each canoe relative to the water?
canoe going upstream m/s
canoe going downstream m/s
 
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svayl said:
Ok, I can not get the answer to this question!

Two canoeists in identical canoes exert the same effort paddling and hence maintain the same speed relative to the water. One paddles directly upstream (and moves upstream), whereas the other paddles directly downstream. With downstream as the positive direction, an observer on shore determines the velocities of the two canoes to be -1.2 m/s and +2.9 m/s, respectively.

(a) What is the speed of the water relative to shore?
m/s
(b) What is the speed of each canoe relative to the water?
canoe going upstream m/s
canoe going downstream m/s

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