Can't figure out how to evaluate a sequence as it goes to infinity.

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The discussion revolves around the evaluation of the sequence An = (((-1)^(n-1))n)/(n^2 + 1) as n approaches infinity, specifically focusing on its convergence or divergence and the limit if it converges.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore different methods for evaluating the limit of the sequence, including dividing the numerator and denominator by n and considering the absolute value of the sequence. Questions arise about the validity of certain approaches and the forms encountered during evaluation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing various insights and questioning the assumptions made in the evaluation process. Some guidance has been offered regarding the manipulation of the sequence, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or conclusion.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the problem's requirement to determine convergence or divergence and to find the limit if it converges. There is some uncertainty about the interpretation of the sequence and the forms encountered during evaluation.

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Homework Statement



An = (((-1)^(n-1))n)/(n^2 + 1)

I need to know if it converges or diverges and if it converges the limit.

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The Attempt at a Solution



I know it converges to 0. But I don't know how to show it when evaluating. I tried evaluation An| in the absolute value but I keep ending up with oo/oo
 
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Try dividing numerator and denominator by n.
 
lin n -> oo abs (((n(-1)^(n-1))/(n + 1/n)) * (1/n)) So it ends up being (infinity/infinity) * 0 = 0. Is that really a valid way to evaluate it?
 
No, it's not. But n*(1/n)=1. Take the absolute value and you've got 1/(n+1/n). What's that limit?
 
The limit is to infinity.
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kripenwah said:
The limit is to infinity.

Why would you think that?
 
Well the problem text says Determine whether the sequences converges or diverges. If it converges find the limit.
 
I don't think limit n->infinity of 1/(n+1/n) is infinity.
 
Not sure if I wrote the problem bad. Here is what the problem looks like the text. an=
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kripenwah said:
Not sure if I wrote the problem bad. Here is what the problem looks like the text. an=
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That's what I thought it was. I'm going to just have to repeat what I said to start with. Divide numerator and denominator by n. That doesn't change the limit. Now you don't have infinity/infinity. What form do you have?
 
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I don't see how it helps unless you take the absolute value of it.
 
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kripenwah said:
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I don't see how it helps.

Doesn't the denominator go to infinity and the numerator not go to infinity? The numerator is bounded. Taking the absolute value wouldn't hurt. But it's not infinity/infinity anymore.
 
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Numerator will be -1 or 1. Divided by infinity it evaluates to 0. But I am not sure if that is a valid way to show that it evaluates to 0. In the book I am using (Stewart) it gives a therom if Lim n-> infinity |an = o than Lim n-> infinity |an = 0.
 
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kripenwah said:
Numerator will be -1 or 1. Divided by infinity it evaluates to 0. But I am not sure if that is a valid way to show that it evaluates to 0. In the book I am using (Stewart) it gives a therom if Lim n-> infinity |an = o than Lim n-> infinity |an = 0.

I think you mean lim n->infinity |an|=0 then lim n->infinity an=0. |an|=1/(n+1/n). Surely that approaches 0. It has the form 1/infinity doesn't it? You probably don't need a epsilon style proof here.
 

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