Can't find the expression for comparision test on a serie

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The discussion revolves around determining the nature of the series \(\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\left[ e^{1/n}-e^{-1/n}\right]\) and identifying an appropriate expression for comparison in the context of the comparison test for convergence or divergence.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the use of the comparison test and suggest comparing the series to \(\sum 2/n\). Questions arise about why this comparison might not work and how to address that issue. There is also discussion about limits and the behavior of the expressions involved as \(n\) approaches infinity.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants examining the limits and relationships between the expressions. Some have noted that the limit approaches an indeterminate form, and there is a recognition of the closeness of the expressions as \(n\) increases. Guidance has been offered regarding the need for a suitable comparison that demonstrates divergence.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the methods they can use or the depth of exploration allowed. There is an acknowledgment of the inconclusiveness of certain tests and the need for careful consideration of limits.

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Hi guys

I'm trying to find out the nature of this serie

\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\left[ e^{1/n}-e^{-1/n}\right]

I know the ratio and root tests are inconclusive, just the comparision test works (it diverges)

But with which expression shall I compare?

Thank you so much
 
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hi joao_pimentel! :smile:

have you tried ∑ 2/n ?

(yes, i know it doesn't work, but why doesn't it work, and how might you fix it? :wink:)
 
tiny-tim said:
hi joao_pimentel! :smile:

have you tried ∑ 2/n ?

(yes, i know it doesn't work, but why doesn't it work, and how might you fix it? :wink:)
Hi

Thanks for the reply :)

I'm trying to find this limit

\lim\frac{e^{1/n}-e^{-1/n}}{\frac{2}{n}}

let's see what can I get...
 
ok, the limit is zero

\lim\frac{e^{1/n}-e^{-1/n}}{\frac{2}{n}}=\frac{e^{0}-e^{0}}{\frac{2}{0}}=0

humm, what changes shall I make?!?
 
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no, i mean is e1/n - e-1/n greater or less than 2/n ?

and by roughly how much? :smile:
 
it doesn't work because 2/n>e^(1/n)-e^(-1/n)

and how can I fix it? :)
 
that's right, it's less :smile:

(and you need it to be greater than something, to prove it diverges)

but roughly how much less is it? :wink:
 
humm, interesting, I'm realising that both expression are really close as n goes inf.

ok, my last limit was incorrect, sorry

\lim\frac{e^{1/n}-e^{-1/n}}{\frac{2}{n}}=\frac{e^{0}-e^{0}}{\frac{2}{\infty}}=\frac{1-1}{0}=\frac{0}{0}=Ind

and solving it it gives 1
 
Thank you tiny-tim

of course, I may compare it with 1/x :)
 
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By the way, how did you find out that 2/n and the other expression are very similar as n goes to inf?

By the Mc-Lauren expansion serie?

Thank you
 
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joao_pimentel said:
By the Mc-Lauren expansion serie?

yes of course :smile:
 
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Thank you so very much again :)

you've been most helpful
 

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