Capillary force when immersed in liquid

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The discussion revolves around the capillary force experienced by hydrophilic surfaces, specifically small cantilevers immersed in water and their interaction with a bulk hydrophilic material. Participants explore the conditions under which capillary forces arise and the role of three-phase lines in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about when capillary forces begin to act between a hydrophilic lever and a bulk material when immersed in water.
  • Another participant suggests that the capillary force is linked to the presence of a three-phase line and questions the initial assumption about immersion in water eliminating capillary forces.
  • A clarification is made that the capillary force arises from the energy differences at the interfaces involved, specifically between the lever, water, and air.
  • It is noted that if only two phases are present, there may be interfacial energy, but without a three-phase line, there would be no resultant force.
  • A later reply emphasizes the importance of considering the water/air interface at a three-phase line in understanding the capillary force dynamics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the conditions necessary for capillary forces to act, particularly regarding the role of three-phase lines and the implications of immersion in water. The discussion remains unresolved as participants clarify and refine their understanding without reaching consensus.

Contextual Notes

There are assumptions regarding the polarizability differences between air and water that may affect the interaction energy, which are not fully explored. The discussion also highlights the complexity of interfacial energies and their contributions to capillary forces.

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Hi

I have a question about the capillary force between two hydrophilic surfaces. I am working with small cantilevers (5-50 um long, 5 um wide, 200 nm thick). If L represents the lever, which is hydrophilic, and X represents some bulk material (also hydrophilic), a profile of the lever looks like:

LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
XX
XX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX


The levers are immersed in water and then dried slowly. My question is, when does the lever (L) begin to experience an attraction to the material (X)? Will the capillary force start when it is immersed, or only when there is a small amount of water between the lever and the material? Basically, I'm wondering if I can get around any capillary forces by keeping the cantilevers in water.

Thanks.
 
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I think you are confused about applying the capillary force (which occurs due to the presence of a three-phase line) and interfacial energy (which is the interface between two phases.

Immersing the entire thing in water means there is no three-phase line. Assuming we can ignore differences in the polarizibility between air and water (which could affect the interaction energy between 'L' and 'X'

The presence of a three-phase line means there is a force acting on the substrate- this is not an attraction to 'X', but a consequence of the different energy between a water/'L' interface and an air/'L' interface.

Or am I not understanding your question?
 
So, a 3-phase line is needed for the capillary force to work, since (as you said) the force is a result of the different energy between the L/air and L/water interface.

If there are just two phases, there is still an interface energy, but since there is just one interface, there is no energy difference and therefore no force.

Is this a correct summary of the situation? Thanks for the reply.
 
Don't forget the water/air interface at a three phase line, but basically, that is correct.
 

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