Car Collision Speed Calculations

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The problem involves a collision between a car and a stationary van, focusing on the calculation of speeds before and after the collision. The scenario includes mass values, friction force during skidding, and the distance traveled before stopping, all set on a horizontal road.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss using conservation of momentum and energy principles to analyze the collision and subsequent motion. There are attempts to derive equations for velocity after the collision and to relate frictional force to acceleration. Some participants question specific steps in the calculations, indicating potential errors.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various approaches being explored. Some participants have provided calculations and corrections, while others are questioning the validity of certain steps. There is no explicit consensus on the final outcomes, but guidance has been offered regarding the use of energy conservation.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the problem statement and are addressing assumptions related to friction and motion. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations regarding the setup and calculations involved.

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Homework Statement



A car of mass 1.2 tonnes collides with a stationary van of mass 2.4 tonnes. After the collision the two vehicles become entangled and skid 15 m before stopping. Police accident investigators estimate that the magnitude of the friction force during the skid was 2880 N. Assume the road is horizontal and that all the motion takes place in a straight line.

a) Find the speed of the vehicles just after the collision.

b) Find the speed of the car before the collision.

Homework Equations



[tex]m_1u_1 + m_2u_2 = (m_1+m_2)v[/tex]

[tex]p = mv[/tex]

[tex]v^2 = u^2 + 2as[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



a) 1200u1 + 0 = 3600v

to find out the velocity after the collision, use v as the initial velocity to travel 15m with a frictional force of 2880 N.

v2 = u2 + 2as

[tex]0 = u^2 + 2as[/tex]

[tex]0 = u^2 + 30a[/tex]

[tex]f = ma[/tex]

[tex]f/m = a[/tex]

[tex](3600v - 2880)/3600 = a[/tex]

[tex]v - 288/360 = a[/tex]

[tex]u^2 + 30(v-288/360) = 0[/tex]
 
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you can use conservation of energy for the first part:
The work done by friction to stop the vehicles= loss in kinetic energy of the car-van system
 
LaTeX Code: (3600v - 2880)/3600 = a

LaTeX Code: v - 288/360 = a

This step is wrong. Check it.
 
[tex]-2880/3600 = a[/tex]

[tex]0 = u^2 + 30(-2880/3600)[/tex]
[tex]24 = u^2[/tex]
[tex]u = 4.90[/tex]

b) [tex]m_1u_1 + m_2u_2 = (m_1 + m_2)v[/tex]
[tex]1200u_1 = 3600(4.898)[/tex]
[tex]u_1 = 14.7ms^-^1[/tex]
 
That is right.
 

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