Momentum: why don't the two carts become one?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of momentum in collisions, specifically addressing why two colliding carts do not "become one" after the impact. The original poster explores scenarios involving different masses and velocities, questioning the outcomes of such collisions and the implications of elasticity in the interaction.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the nature of collisions, including elastic and inelastic scenarios, and the conservation of momentum. Questions arise regarding the behavior of the carts post-collision, including whether one cart rebounds or continues moving at a lower velocity. The original poster also contemplates real-world analogies, such as driving scenarios, to understand the dynamics involved.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the mechanics of collisions and the principles of momentum. Some participants suggest examining the problem from different reference frames, while others clarify the definitions of rebound and deceleration. There is no explicit consensus, but various interpretations and clarifications are being explored.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework problem, which may limit the information available. The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of the collision and the properties of the carts involved, which are being questioned and analyzed.

  • #31
paulb203 said:
I'm assuming we are to imagine the properties are the same in all of the various carts in all of the various examples.
Then don’t.
In the real (macroscale) world, nothing is perfectly elastic or perfectly inelastic. Even putty is a tiny bit elastic, but it is also sticky, so does tend to coalesce.
In physics problems, try not to assume anything about elasticity, but sometimes you are not given that information and are expected to make a reasonable assumption given the materials involved, like putty or billiard balls.
 
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  • #32
nasu said:
The same two carts will always have the same type of collision (elastic, inelastic or totally inelastic) as long as the velocities are not so high as to break them to pieces or deform them over the elastic limit (in case of an elastic collision). But these are not situations you encounter in introductory physics examples. You are usually told what type of outcome to expect (move together or move separately) for a particular problem. Do you actually have an example where the nature of collision changes due to changes in initial velocities, without changing the nature if the colliding objects?
Thanks.
No, I don't have an example. I was incorrectly under the impression, from the outset, that all the carts were made of the same stuff, and that the sticking together or not was down to mass and/or velocities. I'm getting the hang now of doing the maths, of getting the correct answer, but will have to work on understanding what's actually going on :). Elastic and inelastic collisions haven't came up, as such, yet, in the course; I look forward to it.
 
  • #33
Thanks, guys. Really helfpul, as ever :)
 
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