Car crash conservation of momentum problem

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The problem involves a perfectly inelastic collision between a van and an automobile, focusing on the conservation of momentum in a two-dimensional context. The scenario includes calculations for momentum components in both the x and y directions, considering the angle of the automobile's entrance ramp.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of momentum components in different directions, questioning whether to use sine or cosine for the x and y components. There are attempts to clarify the setup of the problem and the angles involved.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging in clarifying their understanding of the problem setup and the calculations involved. There is recognition of potential mistakes in the interpretation of directions and angles, with some participants offering corrections and insights based on their drawings.

Contextual Notes

There is some confusion regarding the definitions of the x and y directions relative to the van's initial direction and the angle of the entrance ramp. Participants are also addressing the implications of these definitions on their calculations.

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Homework Statement


A 2200-kg van traveling north along the interstate at 25 m/s is involved in a perfectly inelastic collision with a 1500-kg automobile driven by a careless motorist who emerges at a speed of 15 m/s form an entrance ramp that makes an angle of 20 degrees with the highway. Find the magnitude and direction of the velocity of the combined wrecked vehicles.


Homework Equations


The equation for inelastic collisions


The Attempt at a Solution


What I did was find the sum of all the momentum in the x direction so
15 cos (20) * 1500 = 21143.08397
and the sum of all the momentum in the y direction so
15 sin (20) *1500 + 25(2200) = 62695.45322
and then I did tanθ = 62695.45322/21143.08397
then I did inverse tan to find theta and got 71 degrees. The correct answer is 5.78° relative to the vans original direction.
 
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BrainMan said:
What I did was find the sum of all the momentum in the x direction so
15 cos (20) * 1500 = 21143.08397
and the sum of all the momentum in the y direction so
15 sin (20) *1500 + 25(2200) = 62695.45322

Draw a picture. Would it be the sine or the cosine that is the x direction?
 
Nathanael said:
Draw a picture. Would it be the sine or the cosine that is the x direction?

I am pretty sure its sine.
 
BrainMan said:
I am pretty sure its sine.

Yes it would be. But you did cosine in your calculation.
 
Nathanael said:
Yes it would be. But you did cosine in your calculation.

Sorry I meant cos. Sin is the y direction. Why would it be sin?
 
BrainMan said:
Sorry I meant cos. Sin is the y direction. Why would it be sin?

Let's make sure we're talking about the same directions. The "y" direction is the direction that the van was initially going, right? And the "x" direction is 90 degrees to that?Check out the picture I attatched.
 

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The 25(2200) term should be added to the 15 cos (20) * 1500 component.
 
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Nathanael said:
Let's make sure we're talking about the same directions. The "y" direction is the direction that the van was initially going, right? And the "x" direction is 90 degrees to that?


Check out the picture I attatched.

I actually used the total opposite of that. Look at my drawing.
 

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BrainMan said:
I actually used the total opposite of that. Look at my drawing.

But the problem says, "an entrance ramp that makes an angle of 20 degrees with the highway"

In your drawing the entrance ramp and the highway make an angle of 70 degrees.
 
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Nathanael said:
But the problem says, "an entrance ramp that makes an angle of 20 degrees with the highway"

In your drawing the entrance ramp and the highway make an angle of 70 degrees.

OK I see my mistake. Thanks!
 

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