Carbonate/bicarbonate buffering of ph

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The discussion revolves around the buffering capacity of carbonate and bicarbonate solutions, specifically their role in maintaining pH levels in water. Participants explore the mechanisms by which bicarbonate can both increase and decrease pH, as well as critique an article that presents these concepts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that sodium bicarbonate maintains a pH of 8.4 and describes its behavior below and above this pH level, suggesting that bicarbonate absorbs H+ ions to increase alkalinity and releases H+ ions to decrease alkalinity.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the article's claims, labeling it as "full of nonsense" and questioning the explanation of bicarbonate releasing H+ ions while being a base.
  • A later reply suggests an alternative resource, Chemguide, as a more reliable source for understanding buffering in acid-base chemistry.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the validity of the article's claims, with clear disagreement regarding its accuracy and the explanation of bicarbonate's behavior in buffering solutions.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential misunderstandings regarding the behavior of bicarbonate in buffering systems and the interpretation of pH dynamics, but does not resolve these issues.

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I recently read an article that a buffer that increases alkalinity to achieve a desired ph has it's in preferred ph value.

For example, sodium bicarbonate holds water at a ph of 8.4.

The article also went on to state that buffers don't always raise ph they can lower it too.

The article states:

"Below 8.4, Bicarbonate absorbs H+ ions and the equation moves to the left, making the water more alkaline. This continues until the pH reaches 8.4 when the process stops.

Above 8.4, Bicarbonate releases H+ ions and the equation moves to the right, making the water more acidic. This continues until the pH is 8.4 when the process stops"

The second paragraph doesn't make sense. How can bicarbonate release H+ ions and move ph down if we are adding a base?

Here is the full article it's only a page long.

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My advice: don't bother, this article is full of nonsense.

Actually it is so bad I am deleting the link from your post.
 
Borek said:
My advice: don't bother, this article is full of nonsense.

Actually it is so bad I am deleting the link from your post.
Ok perhaps you could provide me with a more accurate link?
 

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