Cardboard Robotics: Building a Desktop Robotic Arm

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the construction of a desktop robotic arm using lightweight materials, specifically focusing on the feasibility of using cardboard, cardstock, and foam board. Participants share their experiences and suggestions regarding material selection, cutting techniques, and design considerations for a personal project involving an Arduino board.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks advice on using lightweight materials like cardboard or cardstock for a robotic arm, expressing a preference for materials that can be cut without machines.
  • Another participant suggests considering a Lego robot arm, questioning the compatibility of Lego with servos and other components.
  • A participant recommends foam board as a stable alternative to cardboard, discussing its use in prototypes and suggesting lamination for added strength.
  • There are suggestions for using thin plastic sheets laminated to foam board for enhanced structural integrity, along with advice on creating pivots using metal tubes.
  • One participant notes the challenges of achieving clean cuts with foam board and shares a technique involving petroleum jelly to improve cutting results.
  • A participant expresses a desire for the freedom of manufacturing parts rather than using pre-made kits like Lego, indicating a preference for hands-on experience in prototyping.
  • There is a discussion about the availability of foam board and the potential overthinking of material design for a small project.
  • A participant emphasizes the importance of learning from prototypes and not overbuilding the first version, suggesting that iterations are part of the development process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various preferences for materials and methods, indicating that there is no consensus on the best approach. Multiple competing views on material selection and construction techniques remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention limitations related to the cutting quality of foam board and the availability of materials, suggesting that specific types or grades of foam may not be necessary for small projects.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for hobbyists, engineering students, or anyone interested in building robotic arms or similar projects using lightweight materials and prototyping techniques.

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Hey all! Undergrad in M.Eng here, building a desktop robotic arm (<12 inches tall, arduino board) for a personal project. I've been looking at materials, and aluminum and wood are both doable, but if possible I'd rather use a lighter material that I can cut without machines, such as a strong cardboard or cardstock that could be cut in sheets and designed to be structurally secure. Does anyone have experience with these materials? Any recommendations for what type to buy or where?
 
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Hey Sponson ! Ever consider using a Lego robot arm ?
 
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BvU said:
Hey Sponson ! Ever consider using a Lego robot arm ?
Well, Now I certainly am! I have bins of legos sitting in the basement unused, but would they be able to attach to servo's and other components very easily?
 
Sponson said:
Hey all! Undergrad in M.Eng here, building a desktop robotic arm (<12 inches tall, arduino board) for a personal project. I've been looking at materials, and aluminum and wood are both doable, but if possible I'd rather use a lighter material that I can cut without machines, such as a strong cardboard or cardstock that could be cut in sheets and designed to be structurally secure. Does anyone have experience with these materials? Any recommendations for what type to buy or where?
As an ME, you may be using Foam Core material sheets for some of your models and mock-ups in the future. It's a much more stable material than just cardboard...

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Sponson said:
Well, Now I certainly am! I have bins of legos sitting in the basement unused, but would they be able to attach to servo's and other components very easily?
I was thinking of the product "Lego Robot arm" . I'm sure Lego is keen on selling their controller stuff instead of your arduino, but perhaps you can find out what's needed to drive the thing.

The video nicely shows some limitations (e.g. vibration after sudden stop) that you might improve upon with better hardware and better control software !

But I see a search for "robotic arm arduino" gives lots of hits too
 
I have used foam board for many prototypes with low loads. For items thicker than the basic 1/8" board it is best to use the 1/8" board and laminate it to the thickness you require. For substantially stronger pieces, using simple thin plastic sheet laminated on both outside faces of the foam board assembly adds an amazing amount of strength to the structure (I buy the standard plastic sheet signs sold at the local hardware stores in my area for material because this material is very easy to cut). For pivots or bolted connections you need to insert and glue pieces of metal tube through the sheet structure to act as bushings (12" lengths of aluminum or brass ones in various diameters are also available at my local hardware stores).
 
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JBA said:
I have used foam board for many prototypes with low loads. For items thicker than the basic 1/8" board it is best to use the 1/8" board and laminate it to the thickness you require. For substantially stronger pieces, using simple thin plastic sheet laminated on both outside faces of the foam board assembly adds an amazing amount of strength to the structure (I buy the standard plastic sheet signs sold at the local hardware stores in my area for material because this material is very easy to cut). For pivots or bolted connections you need to insert and glue pieces of metal tube through the sheet structure to act as bushings (12" lengths of aluminum or brass ones in various diameters are also available at my local hardware stores).
Thank you so much! This is exactly the kind of product I was looking for, because I'd prefer the freedom and experience of manufacturing the parts than constructing it from LEGO or a kit
 
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Just as a note on the cutting of foam board, it can be difficult to get a clean edge cut with this material. First, a very sharp cutting blade is required and the foam interior tends to grab on the faces of a cutting blade and tear, which I have discovered can be remedied by repeated applications of a film of "petroleum jelly" on both faces of the cutting blade (as improbable as this may sound).
 
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berkeman said:
As an ME, you may be using Foam Core material sheets for some of your models and mock-ups in the future. It's a much more stable material than just cardboard...

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I've been reading much more into foam and plastic options (probably going to do a plastic-foam sandwich), but foam core distributors I find tend to be from industrial supply quantities or "craft store" display foam board. Should I search for a particular type of foam or am I reading too deeply into material design for this small of a project?
 
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The foam board I use is straight from the local crafts store. To my knowledge there are no different grades of this material.

As a new product development engineer for many years, one lesson I learned is that generally by the time you finish a prototype of an item you already know how it could be made better, so don't focus on overbuilding the first one and don't be hesitant to throw that one out and replace it. Prototypes are learning tools.
 
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