Career in Physics(limited money) help

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The discussion revolves around the career prospects in physics for a high school student in Canada, particularly focusing on the financial implications of pursuing undergraduate versus graduate education. Participants explore the funding opportunities available for graduate studies and the job market for those with only a bachelor's degree in physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to pursue a career in physics but is concerned about financial limitations for higher education.
  • Another participant suggests that graduate education, particularly for a Ph.D. in physics, is typically funded, covering tuition and providing a stipend for living expenses.
  • A question is raised about whether stipends are also provided for Master's programs and if this funding is guaranteed.
  • Discussion includes the structure of graduate programs in the US versus Canada, noting that in the US, Ph.D. programs often integrate Master's coursework, while in Canada, they may be separate.
  • It is mentioned that while funding is generally available throughout graduate studies, the specifics may vary by country and program.
  • Concerns are raised about the limited career opportunities available to those with only a bachelor's degree in physics, with some participants noting that BSc graduates may face challenges in the job market.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that funding for graduate studies is available, but there is some uncertainty regarding the specifics of Master's program funding and the job market for bachelor's degree holders in physics. No consensus is reached on the extent of career opportunities for those with only an undergraduate degree.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include varying funding structures across different countries and institutions, as well as the potential challenges faced by BSc graduates in securing employment in the field of physics.

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Hi and thank you for reading this,

I live in Canada and will soon be going for my last year in high school, and I really want to pursue a career in physics, I've wanted this for a long time(5 years). Physics just intrigues me, and I'm quite good at it, but my family's income isn't that great. They can possibly afford to pay for my undergraduate, but probably nothing higher. Is there any career opportunities if I only do undergraduates? And lastly will i be able to pay off loans for graduate and doctorate degree if i decided to go that route to become a researcher/physicist?
 
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You should not have to pay for graduate education towards a Ph.D. in physics. If you get into grad school successfully, they will normally cover your tuition and give you a stipend that will be enough for basic living expenses as long as you are making satisfactory progress towards your degree. This is the case in the US and I'm pretty sure also in Canada. You will "earn" that money by some combination of teaching (usually undergraduate laboratory classes) and assisting with your professors' research.
 
Thanks for the reply, just to clarify something, they give you a stipend for Masters and Ph.D? And is this always the case?
 
In the US, if you're aiming for a Ph.D. you don't normally do a separate Master's program. In effect, the Ph.D. program combines both degrees, and you can pick up a Master's along the way after you finish a certain amount of coursework. You get funded all the way through.

In Canada I think it's more common to do the Master's and Ph.D. as separate programs. (Or maybe I'm thinking of Europe?) In any event, you still get funding all the way through, but the details are different. We have people from Canada posting here, so one of them will probably verify this for us.
 
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Yes that's correct. In Canada, it's common to receive full support for both the master's and PhD programs. And generally speaking you enroll in the master's degree first, then either complete it and proceed to the PhD, or jump directly into the PhD after about a year or so, with your supervisory committee's approval.

For what it's worth, there aren't that many opportunities IN PHYSICS with only a bachelor's degree in physics. It seems common that BSc graduates struggle a little to market themselves in the non-academic world, although most end up doing alright career-wise. You might want to look up the statistics on these things kept by the AIP or APS.
 
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Thanks to you both, thrilled to hear that I'll have support in my Ph.D journey.
 

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