Casimir Effect as a power source

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The discussion centers on the feasibility of using the Casimir effect as a power source through the manipulation of closely spaced plates. It is established that the Casimir effect is a conservative force, meaning that any energy gained from bringing plates together is exactly equal to the energy required to separate them, thus conserving energy. The analogy to gravity and springs illustrates that while energy can be extracted once, it cannot be repeatedly harnessed without expending the same amount of energy. Therefore, the concept of a perpetual energy source utilizing the Casimir effect is fundamentally flawed.

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Would it be possible to create energy or a power source using plates that are connected in a way that when two plates are close enough the casimir effect would pull them together while also pulling two other plates apart which in turn would create a casimir effect and pulling those plates together while pulling the other plates apart again?
 
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No. It is a conservative force, bringing plates together releases as much energy as pulling them apart needs, energy is conserved. This is an exact result in all underlying theories.
 
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But because of the Casimir effect you are not exerting/consuming any energy, correct?
 
The situation is exactly as with gravity, just for shorter distances: you can gain energy from lowering some mass (bringing it closer to Earth). But you have to spend the same energy to lift it back up (separate it) if you want to repeat this.

The Casimir effect is a conservative force exactly as many others. No magic involved.
 
Imagine two flat metal plates connected in the center of each one with a pipe in the middle, then having multiples of these close enough that the Casimir effect when pulling them together, on the other end the same effect would pull them together as well while pulling the other end apart. Unlike gravity where you would have to come up with a way to lift the object
 
It doesn't matter how complicated you want to make the setup - try to understand the general concept, then you can save time on overcomplicating things. Energy is conserved exactly, every "pulling apart" needs as much energy as "letting them get closer" releases.
 
So you are saying, that while the plates would move back and forth, there is no way to extract any energy from them?
 
Not if the plates are supposed to return to their initial state at some point.

You can extract a tiny bit of energy once, by moving them all together. But then you are done.
 
Benplace said:
So you are saying, that while the plates would move back and forth, there is no way to extract any energy from them?
Correct. A fundamental fact of Physics.
 
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mfb said:
The situation is exactly as with gravity

It's also exactly the same as a set of springs. You can construct them so they are stretched, and gain energy when they spring back. Once.
 
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Thanks for the answers.
 

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