Cauchy-Schwarz for two spacelike vectors

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The Cauchy-Schwarz inequality in Euclidean geometry is expressed as |e·f| ≤ |e||f|. In Minkowskian geometry, this inequality is reversed for timelike vectors, while for spacelike vectors, it is contingent upon whether the vectors span the light cone. A proof can be constructed using the standard approach from the Euclidean case, where the inner product of the vector x = v + tw is analyzed. The inequality holds if and only if the discriminant of the corresponding quadratic polynomial is negative, indicating that the span of the two vectors must consist of spacelike vectors.

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You can use the idea of the "usual" proof for the Euclidean case. If ##v## and ##w## are space-like then for any real number ##t## consider the vector ##x=v+tw## and its inner product with itself. You have ##(x,x)=(v+tw,v+tw)=|v|^2+2(v,w)t+|w|^2t^2##. The inequality holds if and only if the discriminant of the quadratic polynomial is negative, if and only if the polynomial has only positive values. So if the inequality hold if and only if the span of the two vectors consists of space-like vectors.
 
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Thanks, martinbn! I'll have to work that out and make sure I understand it.
 
I have a discussion of Cauchy-Schwarz and triangle inequalities now in section 1.5 of my SR book, http://www.lightandmatter.com/sr/ . The case we discussed here is relegated to a homework problem, where I suggest the idea of martinbn's argument (with credit to martinbn) and ask the reader to carry it out.
 

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