Causality & Hyperspace: FTL Communication Paradoxes

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The discussion centers on the impossibility of faster-than-light (FTL) communication due to the inherent contradictions in the relationship between sending and receiving events. It highlights that if a message arrives before a light signal could travel from sender to receiver, it creates a paradox where an observer could prevent the message from being sent. This phenomenon is explained through the concepts of "spacelike-separated" and "timelike-separated" events, emphasizing that no method of communication can circumvent these fundamental principles of physics.

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  • Understanding of FTL communication concepts
  • Familiarity with spacetime theories
  • Knowledge of causality in physics
  • Basic grasp of special relativity
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  • Research "tachyonic antitelephone" and its implications
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  • Study the principles of special relativity and causality
  • Investigate theoretical frameworks for sub-/hyperspace communication
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As far as I understand, FTL communication (or instantaneous communication) is impossible because one cannot define what "instantaneous" means, so you run into problems.
What if there were some kind of sub-/hyperspace with an absolutlely defined time and instantaneous messaging? Do the paradoxes still arise when communication is happening always instantaneous wrt this hypothetic preferred frame?
Does such a possibility violate some known laws of physics, or is it just that there is absolutely no evidence for it?
 
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Ich said:
As far as I understand, FTL communication (or instantaneous communication) is impossible because one cannot define what "instantaneous" means, so you run into problems.
That's not quite right. The problem is that...
What if there were some kind of sub-/hyperspace with an absolutlely defined time and instantaneous messaging? Do the paradoxes still arise when communication is happening always instantaneous wrt this hypothetic preferred frame?
Does such a possibility violate some known laws of physics, or is it just that there is absolutely no evidence for it?
The problem lies with relationship between the events "message sent" and "message received". If the message arrives before a light signal could have made it from sender to receiver, then there will be some observer for whom the receive event happens before the sending event - and this observer will be able to prevent the message from being sent. For example, they could wait until the message is received and then destroy the transmitter before the message is sent (Google for "tachyonic antitelephone" to see how this might be done).

This contradiction is inherent in the relationship between the sending event and the receiving event, so we cannot make the contradiction go away just by choosing some more clever way of delivering the message - no matter how it is sent, if it arrives before a flash of light would, we are stuck.
The technical term for events related in this way is "spacelike-separated"; events that are always ordered with causes happening before effects are said to be "timelike-separated". Googling for those terms will bring up a flood of good writeups.
 

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