Caustic(Sodium Hydroxide) corrosion problem

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The discussion centers around the corrosion issues associated with using caustic (sodium hydroxide) as a heating and cooling medium in reactors, particularly in the context of PVC production. Participants explore methods to minimize corrosion in carbon steel (CS) pipelines and reactors, considering alternative additives and their effects on system performance.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks advice on preventing or minimizing corrosion in carbon steel reactors using caustic as a heating/cooling medium.
  • Another suggests adding sodium carbonate to create a passivating iron carbonate coating, questioning the choice of caustic as a heat transfer fluid.
  • A participant explains the use of caustic in the PVC process, noting the exothermic reaction and the observed corrosion near bends in the pipeline, expressing concern about the corrosive nature of hot caustic at 12-15% concentration.
  • One reply states that calcium carbonate is not suitable due to its low solubility in sodium hydroxide and suggests that galvanic corrosion may be occurring near bends or welds. They propose increasing carbonate levels or considering a complete replacement of sodium hydroxide with carbonate.
  • A participant inquires about testing the temperature capabilities of calcium carbonate and sodium carbonate at 110°C, expressing concerns about potential deposition in the reactor and seeking suggestions for experimental methods to assess both temperature increase and corrosion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of calcium carbonate as a solution and the best approach to mitigate corrosion. There is no consensus on the optimal method to address the corrosion problem, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best additives and testing methods.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific conditions such as the concentration of caustic and the temperatures involved, but the implications of these factors on corrosion and heat transfer remain unclear. The discussion includes assumptions about the behavior of additives in the caustic solution that are not fully explored.

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I am using castic as heating / Cooling media for the reactors in my lab. MOC of my reactor and pipeline is CS. Can anyone tell how to prevent / minimise this?
 
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You might try adding a bit of sodium carbonate with the hydroxide. The carbonate will produce a passivating iron carbonate coating on the interior of the CS (carbon steel?) tubes.

Why such an exotic teat transfer fluid?
 
Thank you sir,
Let me tell you in somewhat detail, we are using caustic in the reactors for the PVC process. Since the reaction is exothermic and controlled at around 105°C to 115°C, we can not use water, so we use this as heating / cooling media. Now I am observing the lines are getting punctured mostly near bends or in between. so in the first observation I doubt on Hot Caustic solution which is corrosive as all know. We are using 12 to 15 % concentration caustic.

As suggested by you we have to use Sodium carbonate with caustic . Can we use Calcium carbonate? and If yes then How much we have to add in my system where I am using 12% caustic solution? Thanks in advance.
 
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Calcium carbonate won't do any good. It's not soluble enough in the NaOH solution. It sounds like you are getting some galvanic corrosion near the bends due to stress or the welds. You might try to increase the carbonate levels and perhaps think of entirely replacing the NaOH with the carbonate.

Have you ever sectioned a bend to see if scaling is a problem as well?
 
I will open the line but it will take some time but once I do that definitely will give feedback to you. Now can Calcium carbonate / sodium carbonate will give temperatures upto 110°C. How can I test that in my lab? will there be any problem of dipostion in my reactor which will then reduce the heat transfer? Can it be very simple as by keeping in the beaker and heating it and checking how much temp. increases? In the same test I can try the corrosion test also. What do you suggest?
 

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