Center of Mass of Earth-Moon-Sun System During Full Moon

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The discussion revolves around calculating the center of mass of the Earth-Moon-Sun system during a full Moon, where the Earth, Moon, and Sun are aligned. Participants are working with given masses and distances in a coordinate system centered on the Sun.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to apply the center of mass formula but are questioning the values being substituted into the equation. There are discussions about the units used and the interpretation of "cm" in the context of the formula.

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Some participants have provided guidance on ensuring that distances are measured correctly with respect to the Sun. There is an acknowledgment of confusion regarding the placement of values in the formula, and one participant has indicated they have resolved their issue.

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Participants are discussing the need to clarify the distances of each body from the Sun, as well as ensuring that the units are consistent throughout the calculations.

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[SOLVED] Physic Question

Homework Statement



Calculate the location of the center of mass of the Earth-Moon-Sun system during a full Moon. A full Moon occurs when the Earth, Moon, and Sun are lined up as shown in the figure. Use a coordinate system in which the center of the sun is at x=0 and the Earth and Moon both lie along the positive x direction.

The mass of the Moon is 7.35×10^22 kg, the mass of the Earth is 6.00×10^24 kg, and the mass of the sun is 2.00×10^30 kg. The distance between the Moon and the Earth is 3.80×10^5 km. The distance between the Earth and the Sun is 1.50×10^8 km.

Homework Equations


I am using the x(cm) = m1x1 + m2x2 + m3x3/ m1 + m2 + m3

Where m is masses of the objects and x is distance

The Attempt at a Solution



I put in x(cm) = ((2.00 x 10^30)(1.50×10^8 km) + (7.35×10^22 kg)(3.80×10^5 km) + (6.00×10^24 kg)(1.50×10^8 km))/(7.35×10^22 kg + 6.00×10^24 kg + 2.00×10^30 kg)

I know I am subbing in the wrong value somewhere.
 
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x(cm) = m1x1 + m2x2 + m3x3/ m1 + m2 + m3

If you put x1,x2,x3 in Km (as given in the question) then you will get x in Km not cm
 
Hybr!d said:

Homework Equations


I am using the x(cm) = m1x1 + m2x2 + m3x3/ m1 + m2 + m3
Nothing wrong with this formula.
I am completely stumped. Like i try to sub the values into the equation but I get a huge number and it doesn't seem right
Show exactly what values you plugged in.
 
Google_Spider said:
If you put x1,x2,x3 in Km (as given in the question) then you will get x in Km not cm
In this context, "cm" stands for center of mass (not centimeters).
 
Doc Al said:
Nothing wrong with this formula.

Show exactly what values you plugged in.

I put in x(cm) = ((2.00 x 10^30)(1.50×10^8 km) + (7.35×10^22 kg)(3.80×10^5 km) + (6.00×10^24 kg)(1.50×10^8 km))/(7.35×10^22 kg + 6.00×10^24 kg + 2.00×10^30 kg)
 
Hybr!d said:
I put in x(cm) = ((2.00 x 10^30)(1.50×10^8 km) + (7.35×10^22 kg)(3.80×10^5 km) + (6.00×10^24 kg)(1.50×10^8 km))/(7.35×10^22 kg + 6.00×10^24 kg + 2.00×10^30 kg)
Measure all positions with respect to the sun, which is at x = 0. What's the distance of each body from the sun?

(I failed to notice that you gave these details in your first post. D'oh!)
 
Thanks for the help I got it :) Its just

x(cm) = ((2.00 x 10^30)(0) + (7.35×10^22 kg)(3.80×10^5 km + 1.5x10^8) + (6.00×10^24 kg)(1.50×10^8 km))/(7.35×10^22 kg + 6.00×10^24 kg + 2.00×10^30 kg)
 

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