Center of the Universe - Is it Possible?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of whether there is a center of the universe, exploring various interpretations of the universe's expansion and the implications of such a center. Participants engage with theoretical perspectives, analogies, and the implications of the Big Bang, focusing on the nature of space and dimensionality.

Discussion Character

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that the balloon analogy is limited to a 2D perspective and does not accurately represent the 3D nature of the universe.
  • Others propose that a center could be defined based on the point of the universe's expansion, though this center does not exist in the three dimensions we comprehend.
  • One participant suggests that if a center could be identified, it would need to be plotted over time.
  • Another participant reflects on the idea that at the moment of the Big Bang, all matter was concentrated at a point, raising questions about the existence of a central point as the universe expanded.
  • Some participants challenge the notion of a center, stating that the universe's expansion does not necessitate a central point, using the concept of infinite space to illustrate their argument.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of gravity on the expansion of the universe and whether it could affect the speed of light, leading to further questions about measuring distances to a hypothetical center.
  • Several participants express confusion regarding the Big Bang and its implications for the concept of a center, with some asserting that the Big Bang created space itself rather than expanding into pre-existing space.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the existence of a center of the universe, with no consensus reached. Some agree that the balloon analogy is insufficient, while others maintain differing interpretations of the implications of the Big Bang and the nature of expansion.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of definitions and the limitations of analogies in discussing complex concepts like the universe's expansion and the Big Bang. There are unresolved questions regarding the nature of space and time in relation to the universe's expansion.

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I have two arrows on this screenshot... One (on top) points to somewhere around where Earth is... The second, points to a giant bright glowing center of our universe (at least, I think it is our universe - is there something bigger than our universe but smaller than "everything"?). What is the giant glowing thing... Of course, you could argue that SOMEONE created this 3d depiction of our universe, so maybe they are wrong... But I have seen this same concept in several different depictions, so there has to be some logic behind the giant glowing light... Can anyone answer?
 
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Actually, by definition, the universe IS everything. I know there's a new popular movement about the "multi-verse", but that's ultimately semantics. The "universe" is intended to describe everything that is.

What you appear to have a picture of is not the universe, but a galaxy. There are a gajillion galaxies in the universe. I'm not sure that the giant glow in the center of galaxies has an official name, but I'm sure someone on here can answer for you if it does. The "glowing" is due to a greater clustering of stars and space dust, which both emit and reflect a great amount of light.

I hope that helps!
 
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seanm, yes as Hoku points out, what you have there is not a picture of the universe, but a picture of a galaxy, specifically a spiral galaxy. Our galaxy is called the Milky Way, and it is but one of billions in the universe. There's another one nearby, called Andromeda, about 2 million light years away.

The central area in a spiral galaxy is called by many names - most often the core or the central bulge. It's a dense packing of millions and millions of stars.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy
 

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