Solving Central Force Motion: Sketch Equivalent Elliptic & Hyperbolic Orbits

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SUMMARY

This discussion focuses on sketching elliptical and hyperbolic orbits for two equal-mass objects and their equivalent one-body orbits using reduced mass concepts. The elliptical orbit is represented as overlapping ellipses centered at the center of mass, while the hyperbolic orbit is characterized by higher eccentricity, resembling a hyperbola. Participants emphasize the importance of understanding the reduced mass and its implications in visualizing the one-body orbit, which simplifies the two-body problem by treating one body as fixed.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of central force motion
  • Familiarity with orbital mechanics and conic sections
  • Knowledge of reduced mass concepts in physics
  • Ability to sketch and interpret orbital diagrams
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the derivation of reduced mass in two-body systems
  • Learn about the properties of hyperbolic orbits in celestial mechanics
  • Explore the implications of central potential in orbital dynamics
  • Practice sketching orbits using software tools like MATLAB or Python's Matplotlib
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Students and educators in physics, particularly those studying orbital mechanics, as well as anyone interested in visualizing complex motion in two-body systems.

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Homework Statement



Sketch the elliptical and hyperbolic orbits two objects make around each other if their masses are equal. Next to each, sketch the equivalent one-body orbit.

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The Attempt at a Solution



For the elliptical orbit, I just drew two ellipses that overlap in a venn diagram sort of fashion where the center of mass is midway between the two objects.

I am confused about the equivalent one-body orbit. The system can be reduced to a single object of reduced mass \mu but I don't understand how to figure out its path.

For the hyperbolic orbit, wouldn't it just look the same as the elliptical orbit except with a higher eccentricity?

I have the same confusion when trying to deal with the path of the reduced mass in this one too.

If anyone can help clarify to me how I can visualize the sketches, I would greatly appreciate it.
 
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Firstly go back and look at the details of the reduced mass business. The equivalence is to a single body in a central potential. It becomes essentially a two body problem with the central body fixed (i.e. as if it had infinite mass).

Secondly a hyperbolic orbit is not an ellipse it is a hyperbola.

I would start with the single body in the central well cases first. Then look again at what that reduced case means. You should have seen its derivation somewhere with the position and velocity derived in terms of the positions and velocities of the two bodies.

See how that relates the reduced cases (which are simpler) to the two body cases... especially the relationships of the position vectors.
 

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