Centrifugal pump cavitation prevention

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The discussion revolves around the prevention of cavitation in a centrifugal pump, specifically analyzing the Taco Model 4013 F1 series pump. Participants are working through a homework problem that involves calculating the minimum elevation of the liquid surface required to avoid cavitation, considering various parameters such as NPSH, pressure, and fluid dynamics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant reports a negative pressure calculation at the pump inlet, suggesting a potential issue with the system design or assumptions made in the calculations.
  • Another participant questions the relationship between available NPSH and required NPSH, seeking clarification on whether they must be equal to prevent cavitation.
  • Several participants discuss the interpretation of the pump curve and the significance of the NPSH values, with one noting a specific NPSH head of about 4 feet, which is slightly under the required value.
  • There is a mention of the need to determine the pressure at the entrance to the pump to match the NPSH, with a suggestion that the calculations may have misused atmospheric pressure instead of the correct inlet pressure.
  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the NPSH concept, indicating that the calculations might suggest cavitation could occur in the pipe leading to the pump.
  • A later reply indicates a conclusion reached with a professor that the problem may be flawed due to the velocity head overcoming the vapor pressure, leading to negative pressure results.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the calculations and interpretations of NPSH, with no consensus reached on the correct approach to avoid cavitation. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of negative pressure calculations and the adequacy of the problem setup.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential limitations in their calculations, including the use of incorrect pressure values and the assumptions regarding fluid dynamics in the system. The relationship between NPSH and cavitation prevention remains a point of contention.

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Homework Statement


The 9.75 in. impeller option of the Taco Model 4013 F1 series centrifugal pump (pump curve given by Figure P3-2) is used to pump 200 GPM of water at 25 C from an open reservoir whose surface is above the centerline
of the pump inlet (Figure P3-1). The piping system from the reservoir to the pump consists of 10.0
ft of cast iron pipe with an ID of 2.0 in. and an average roughness of 0.02 in. There are several
minor losses: a sharp-edge inlet (Kc = 0.5), three flanged smooth 90 degree elbows (Ke = 0.3 each)
and a fully open flanged globe valve (Kv = 6.0).

Estimate the minimum elevation of the liquid surface above the pump inlet required to operate the pump without cavitation.

Hint: Recall that the NPSH is the difference between the head at the pump inlet and the vapor
pressure head (Equation 1).



Data: Vapor pressure of water at 25 C = 3.169 kPa
Density of water = 997.0 kg /m3
Viscosity of water = 8.91 X 10-4 km / m s
Patm = 101.3 kPa






Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


I keep getting a pressure that is negative. using the chart that I attached for the Taco Pump, I get a NPSH of about 1.12 m (3.7 feet) and when I use equation one, the pressure at the inlet of the pump is negative.
 

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From the graph, what is the minimum NPSH required to avoid cavitation? For 200 gpm, what is V2/2g coming into the pump? What does P/ρg have to be at the pump inlet to aviod cavitation?
 
From looking at the graph, I see the NPSH head is about 4 feet, just slightly under. In my attempt, I just divided Q/A to get V, and the only unknown is P. When I calculated it, I got -5.05 kPa, which doesn't make sense to me.

I see that there is an NPSH-available and NPSH-required. The equation given is for the available NPSH according to wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPSH#NPSH_in_a_Pump

And the graph labels ''required NPSH''. To prevent cavitation, does the available NPSH = required NPSH?
 
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Maylis said:
From looking at the graph, I see the NPSH head is about 4 feet, just slightly under. In my attempt, I just divided Q/A to get V, and the only unknown is P. When I calculated it, I got -5.05 kPa, which doesn't make sense to me.

I see that there is an NPSH-available and NPSH-required. The equation given is for the available NPSH according to wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPSH#NPSH_in_a_Pump

And the graph labels ''required NPSH''. To prevent cavitation, does the available NPSH = required NPSH?

Yes. That's my understanding. 108 ft.

Chet
 
I see where you came up with 108 ft. Look at the right side of the graph. It says NPSH and gives a separate scale that reads NPSH feet.
 
Maylis said:
I see where you came up with 108 ft. Look at the right side of the graph. It says NPSH and gives a separate scale that reads NPSH feet.

Ah, yes. I missed that. Thanks.

It looks like you used P2=1 atm in the calculations when you should have been using the pressure at the entrance to the pump. You first need to determine what the pressure at the entrance to the pump has to be so that you match the NPSH. You then have to determine what the height of the water in the reservoir has to be to give you that pressure at the entrance to the pump.

Chet
 
I think you have misread. My P2 = -5.05 kPa, not 1 atm. That is what I calculate the pressure at the entrance of the pump to be. Just look at the last line and you will see that I am solving for P2 using the equation given to us for NPSH. My whole problem is that when I use that formula, I get a negative pressure for P2.

I know once I get P2, all I have to do is use bernoulli to get the height difference.
 
Maylis said:
I think you have misread. My P2 = -5.05 kPa, not 1 atm. That is what I calculate the pressure at the entrance of the pump to be. Just look at the last line and you will see that I am solving for P2 using the equation given to us for NPSH. My whole problem is that when I use that formula, I get a negative pressure for P2.

I know once I get P2, all I have to do is use bernoulli to get the height difference.

I see what you are saying now. The NPSH concept seems a little confusing. It looks like, to calculate the NPSH, one is comparing the stagnation pressure within the entry pipe with the vapor pressure of the water. Apparently what happens is that the cross sectional area inside the pump is much higher than in the entry pipe, so the fluid velocity within the pump is much smaller than in the entry pipe. Therefore, inside the pump, the pressure starts out as being roughly equal to the stagnation pressure prior to the pump. This is what is compared to the vapor pressure to guarantee (by the pump manufacturer) that there is no cavitation inside the pump. However, in your problem, what the calculation seems to be indicating is that there may be cavitation in the pipe leading up to the pump. I don't know whether this matters or not. Still I would not allow P2 to come out this low. If I were designing the system, I would choose P2 no lower than the vapor pressure.

Chet
 
The professor is here and we came to the conclusion that the problem is messed up, because the velocity head is overcoming the vapor pressure, which accounts for the negative pressure calculation.
 
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