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The problem involves determining the maximum speed of an automobile traveling across a bridge with a curved roadway, specifically focusing on centripetal acceleration and the forces acting on the vehicle at the apex of the curve.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between centripetal force and gravitational force, questioning the conditions under which the normal force becomes zero. There is also exploration of the implications of the bridge's curvature on the forces experienced by the automobile.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering insights into the nature of forces at play and questioning the assumptions made about the normal force and the conditions for maintaining contact with the bridge. Some participants suggest that the limiting speed may not be constant throughout the arc.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the need for additional information, such as the length of the bridge, to fully analyze the problem, indicating potential constraints in the current understanding of the scenario.

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Homework Statement



A bridge over a small river has a roadway which is in the shape of an arch having radius of curvature of 41 m. What is the maximum speed at which an automobile can travel across the bridge without leaving the bridge?

Homework Equations



Fc = (mv^2)/r

Fg= mg

The Attempt at a Solution



Fnet = ma

Fc = Fg - Fn

(mv^2) / r = mg - fn

(v^2) / r = g

root ( 41 * 9.81) = 20.06 m/s

I know that this is the right answer, but I don't understand why the normal force is zero. Isn't the bridge exerting a force equal to that of gravity on the car so that it doesn't go through the bridge?
 
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The point at which the automobile leaves the bridge is when it's no longer in contact with the bridge i.e. there is no normal force. There's no force preventing it going through the bridge because it isn't in contact with it.
 
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Speedking96 said:

Homework Statement



A bridge over a small river has a roadway which is in the shape of an arch having radius of curvature of 41 m. What is the maximum speed at which an automobile can travel across the bridge without leaving the bridge?

Homework Equations



Fc = (mv^2)/r

Fg= mg

The Attempt at a Solution



Fnet = ma

Fc = Fg - Fn

(mv^2) / r = mg - fn

(v^2) / r = g

root ( 41 * 9.81) = 20.06 m/s

I know that this is the right answer, but I don't understand why the normal force is zero. Isn't the bridge exerting a force equal to that of gravity on the car so that it doesn't go through the bridge?
That's only if the bridge is flat. Did you ever feel like, when you were going over a bump in the road, you were almost flying out of your seat. Part of the gravitational force is used up just trying to hold you down in the curved trajectory.
 
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Speedking96 said:
(v^2) / r = g

I know that this is the right answer,
Actually, it isn't. That's the limiting speed for it to stay in contact at the apex of the bridge, but if it's a constant arc then the speed at start and end of the arc will need to be lower. To find out what that is you'd need to know the length of the bridge.
 

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