Centripetal Force And Acceleration

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around concepts of centripetal force and acceleration in the context of uniform circular motion. Participants are examining a specific problem involving a man on a ferris wheel and the forces acting on him at the top of the wheel.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning the direction of centripetal force and acceleration, particularly in relation to the forces acting on the man riding the ferris wheel. There is confusion regarding the signs used for forces and how they relate to the direction of acceleration.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing examination of the relationships between the forces involved, with some participants providing alternative interpretations of the signs and directions of forces. The discussion reflects a mix of agreement and differing viewpoints on the correct application of concepts.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of the original problem statements, which may lead to varying interpretations of the terms used, such as centripetal versus centrifugal force. The algebraic setup and sign conventions are also under scrutiny.

Erwin Schrodinger
Messages
24
Reaction score
0
1. Which of the following statements best applies to an object moving with uniform circular motion?(Answer: B)
A. Acceleration is zero.
B. Acceleration is directed outward.
C. Acceleration is tangent to the path.
D. Magnitude of acceleration is constant.

I thought the answer was D but how can it be B? Centripetal acceleration is always towards the center of the circular path. How is that outward?

2. A 50kg man is riding a ferris wheel at a constant speed. At the top of the wheel, the seat exerts an upward force of 420N on him. What is the centripetal force on the man at the top of the wheel? (Answer: 70N)

Fnet = FN+Fg+Fc
0 = 420+50(-9.8)+Fc
70N [up] = Fc

Again, this direction has me confused. Centripetal force is always towards the center of the circular path so why am I getting an up answer?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
For number two, if you consider mg negative, the upward force is positive. Since mg is directed at the center of the wheel and 50(9.8)>420, thus 420 - 50(9.8)>0. Since it is negative it is directed to the center of the wheel; this is the centripetal force. Your mistake was to consider F_c to be positive, but it is negative since it's in the same direction as mg.
 
Are you sure that you're transcribing these directly. There's an important difference between centripetal acceleration and centrifugal force.
For part 1:
With the question as you have written it, of the choices listed, the only correct one is D.
For part 2:
Are you sure the question is asking for "centripetal" force? The correct answer, to the question as you have it written would probably be "the force of gravity".
However, if the questions were asking about centrifugal force rather than centripetal acceleration, then the answers that are given would make more sense. (Although the magnittude of the centrifugal force is constant for uniform circular motion.)
 
Yep, I copied these questions exactly as they were stated in my workbook.

Werg22, I don't understand your explanation. I'm saying that positive is up and negative is down. 0 = 420-490+Fc. Fc has to be positive 70N which means its up. I don't think there's anything wrong with the algebra; it just doesn't make sense.
 
You let F_c and the upward force be of the same sign, which is wrong since F_c is in the same direction as mg and thus mg and F_c need to be of the same sign.

Look:

You start with

F_c = Fnet

F_c = 430 + mg

Since F_c is in the same direction as mg, they are of the same sign

If you consider mg negative, thus Fc is negative.

0= 430 + mg -F_c, Since you multiplied F_c by -1, its sign changes. Your mistake was to consider F_c positive, but it is not since the sign changed. So -F_c = 70, and F_c = -70.
 
Last edited:

Similar threads

  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
1K
Replies
16
Views
955
Replies
55
Views
3K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
5K
  • · Replies 18 ·
Replies
18
Views
3K
Replies
1
Views
916
Replies
12
Views
2K
  • · Replies 28 ·
Replies
28
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
4K
Replies
2
Views
2K