Centripetal Force, Gravity and Normal

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The discussion centers on the relationship between centripetal force, gravitational force, and normal force in a physics problem involving circular motion. The correct normal force at point Q is derived using the equation Fn = Fc = mv'^2/r = mv^2/r - 2mg, where mv^2/r represents the centripetal force and -2mg accounts for the energy conversion from kinetic to potential energy. The participants clarify that the normal force is not simply the vector sum of the centripetal and gravitational forces, but rather a specific calculation based on energy conservation principles.

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  • Understanding of centripetal force (F_{c} = mv^{2}/r)
  • Knowledge of gravitational force (mg)
  • Familiarity with kinetic and potential energy concepts
  • Basic principles of conservation of energy
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  • Explore energy conservation in mechanical systems
  • Learn about the relationship between kinetic and potential energy in physics
  • Investigate the role of normal force in various motion contexts
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


F_{c} = \frac{mv^{2}}{r}


The Attempt at a Solution



I think the normal force would be the magnitude of vector sum of centripetal force and gravitational force. So I did:

N = \sqrt{(\frac{mv^{2}}{r})^{2} + (mg)^{2}}

However, it isn't one of the answer choice. The actual answer is (c), and I have got no clue why it is (c).

I could imagine why answer is:
(a) Since mg is perpendicular to point Q, normal force is only \frac{mv^{2}}{r}
(b) if calculated from the highest tip of the circle...

but where does 2mg comes from!?

Thank in advance.
 
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The -2mg part originally comes from the KE converted to PE.

Try writing an equation for the energy of the ball at Q.
 
Oh thanks, so we approach this problem using conservation of energy.

let v = initial velocity

We have this at Point Q:
KE = KE' + PE..

1/2mv^2 = 1/2mv'^2 + mgr.

mv^2/r - 2mg = mv'^2/r

We also have Force at point Q:
Fn = Fc = mv'^2/r = mv^2/r - 2mg
 
Yes that how I got the book answer.
 

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