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Centripetal Force + Law of conservation of energy question.

  1. Dec 14, 2011 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
    Your favourite physics teacher who is late for class attempts to swing from the roof of a 24-m high building to the bottom of an identical building using a 24m rope as shown in Figure 5. She starts from rest with the rope horizontal, but the rope will break if the tension force in it is twice the weight of the teacher. How high is the swinging physicist above level when the rope breaks? (Hint: Apply the law of conservation of energy.)

    Figure 5:
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    2. Relevant equations
    [tex]F_c = \frac{mv^{2}}{r}[/tex]


    3. The attempt at a solution
    [tex]mgh_1 + \frac{mv^{2}}{r}_1 = 2mgh_2 + \frac{mv^{2}}{r}_2 [/tex] Since the questions states that when tension force is twice the weight of the mass, then the rope will break. That's why I put the 2 infront of m. Then I crossed out the m's and you get.

    [tex]gh_1 + \frac{v^{2}}{r}_1 = 2gh_2 + \frac{mv^{2}}{r}_2[/tex]
    [tex](9.8)(24) + 0 = 2(9.8)h + \frac{v^{2}}{r} [/tex]
    [tex]235.2 = 19.6h + \frac{v^{2}}{r} [/tex]
    I don't really know what to do next.

    The answer in the back of the book is 8.0m
     
    Last edited: Dec 14, 2011
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  3. Dec 14, 2011 #2
    Before going anywhere, keep in mind that
    ac=mv2r

    Is not true. v2/r is the acceleration, meaning that mv2/r is the centripetal force.
     
  4. Dec 14, 2011 #3
    Oops. But what do I do next? How do I solve the question?
     
  5. Dec 14, 2011 #4

    PhanthomJay

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    what equation is this? You are adding PE units with force units. This is not the conservation of energy equation. You first have to identify the centripetal force when the rope breaks at a tension of 2mg. The centripetal force is the net force in the centripetal direction which is the tension force less the component of the person's weight in the centripetal direction at an unknown height and angle (draw a sketch). Then apply conservation of energy correctly to get a second equation. Note also that hsintheta is h/24, where theta is the angle with the x axis, and h is measured from the top of the roof .
     
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