Centripetal Force Problem: Calculating Speed of a Model Airplane on a String"

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving centripetal force, specifically calculating the speed of a model airplane being flown in a horizontal circular path while attached to a string. The problem presents parameters such as the mass of the airplane, the length of the string, and the force exerted on the person's hand.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of vector components in solving the problem, questioning the necessity of considering gravitational force in relation to the tension in the string. There is also a mention of differing approaches found in a solution manual, prompting inquiries about the reasoning behind those methods.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of the problem's assumptions, particularly regarding the horizontal nature of the string and the airplane's path. Some guidance has been provided regarding the relevance of the force acting along the string, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach to the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem specifies an ideal situation where the string is horizontal, yet they also acknowledge that real-world factors, such as the weight of the airplane, could affect this assumption. There is a discussion about the implications of using grams instead of kilograms for the mass of the airplane.

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Homework Statement


A person is flying an 82 g model airplane in a horizontal circular path on the end of
a string 11m long. The string is also horizontal (ideal situation). It exerts a force of
3.22N on the hand of the person holding it. What is the speed of the plane?




Homework Equations


Force(c)=mv^2/r


The Attempt at a Solution


I did the problem by using vector components. 3.22N was the force acting on the arm to the right and the other component was the force of gravity which was N=mg, 803.6N acting down. I used pyth. theorem to find the hypotenuse. Then i go to the solution manual to see if I did my work correctly so far and it turns out that they just substituted all the variables in the formula and got the answer without playing with any components. Why is this so? Please help!
 
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Haniszmi said:

Homework Statement


A person is flying an 82 g model airplane in a horizontal circular path on the end of
a string 11m long. The string is also horizontal (ideal situation). It exerts a force of
3.22N on the hand of the person holding it. What is the speed of the plane?

Homework Equations


Force(c)=mv^2/r

The Attempt at a Solution


I did the problem by using vector components. 3.22N was the force acting on the arm to the right and the other component was the force of gravity which was N=mg, 803.6N acting down. I used pyth. theorem to find the hypotenuse. Then i go to the solution manual to see if I did my work correctly so far and it turns out that they just substituted all the variables in the formula and got the answer without playing with any components. Why is this so? Please help!

The weight of the plane has nothing to do with the force on the hand. The force on the hand is coming from the string. The string is horizontal. So only the force along the string is what counts and that is mv2/R

Note also: The plane is given as grams not kg.
 
Haniszmi said:

Homework Statement


A person is flying an 82 g model airplane in a horizontal circular path on the end of
a string 11m long. The string is also horizontal (ideal situation). It exerts a force of
3.22N on the hand of the person holding it. What is the speed of the plane?




Homework Equations


Force(c)=mv^2/r


The Attempt at a Solution


I did the problem by using vector components. 3.22N was the force acting on the arm to the right and the other component was the force of gravity which was N=mg, 803.6N acting down. I used pyth. theorem to find the hypotenuse. Then i go to the solution manual to see if I did my work correctly so far and it turns out that they just substituted all the variables in the formula and got the answer without playing with any components. Why is this so? Please help!
The problem states that the string is horizontal and that the airplane path is in a horizontal circle (ideal situation). But as long as there is mass at the end of the string, it can never be truly horizontal, because the weight tof the mass will pull the string down a bit from the horizontal. The problem is asking you to ignore this effect.
 
Awesome thanks guys!
 

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