CH3NH2 in the Bronsted-Lowry Theory

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The discussion centers on the classification of CH3NH2 (methylamine) within the Bronsted-Lowry theory of acids and bases. The consensus is that CH3NH2 acts as a base, reacting with water to produce OH- and CH3NH3+. However, the teacher's perspective that CH3NH2 could also be viewed as an acid is acknowledged, particularly in its protonated form, CH3NH3+. The conversation highlights the stability of NH3 and the conditions under which CH3NH2 might exhibit acidic behavior, emphasizing that while CH3NH2 is primarily a base, its protonated form can function as an acid.

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We just got a worksheet about acids and bases today. One of the questions said:

"Using the Bronsted-Lowry theory of acids and bases, write equations for the following acid-base reactions and indicate each conjugate acid-base pair."

One such reaction was CH3NH2 + H2O

I checked a ton of websites, and nearly every answer I can find says that CH3NH2 is a base, and the products of this reaction are OH- + CH3NH3+.

However, my teacher seeemd to think that CH3NH2 was an acid, because if it was a Bronsted base and another H+ was added to it, it wouldn't make sense, since NH3 is a stable compound itself and wouldn't be part of a larger compound.

I know that CH3NH2 should be a base, but I also see my teacher's point about it being an acid. How can this compound accept another hydrogen? It'd also help if I could see a Lewis dot structure of CH3NH3+.
 
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The amine group (the -NH2) can accept a hydrogen ion. Yes, the methylamine is a base. The PROTONATED form of it can be considered an acid; this would be CH3NH3+1.
 
SMc21 said:
However, my teacher seeemd to think that CH3NH2 was an acid, because if it was a Bronsted base and another H+ was added to it, it wouldn't make sense, since NH3 is a stable compound itself and wouldn't be part of a larger compound.

NH3 as a separate entity is different from the same group of atoms in CH3NH3+. Comparing them make about as much sense as stating H2O can't exist, because H2 is a stable compound.
 
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The amine group (the -NH2) can accept a hydrogen ion. Yes, the methylamine is a base. The PROTONATED form of it can be considered an acid; this would be CH3NH3+1.

But couldn't one of the groups in the methylamine also "give up" an H+? Why wouldn't they be able to?

I understand how it can be a base now, but I still don't understand why it can't be an acid.
 
Technically speaking it is possible, and in well designed experiments, in anhydrous solutions, you should be able to see CH3NH-. However, CH3NH- is a very strong base, so in water it will immediately react with solvent, yielding CH3NH2 and OH-
 
Ah, so basically, any possibility for CH3NH2 to behave as an acid is canceled out because the resulting compound would almost instantly "re-react"?
 
Yes.
 
Ah, I see. Thanks for the help!
 

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