Change in momentum, impulse force calculations

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The problem involves a ball dropped from a height, analyzing the impulse received from the floor during its bounce. The context includes concepts of momentum, impulse, and energy conservation in a physics setting.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of momentum and impulse, questioning the treatment of momentum as a vector quantity and the implications of direction changes during the bounce.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance regarding the importance of considering the direction of momentum, which appears to have helped clarify the original poster's calculations. There is an indication of progress in understanding the problem, though multiple interpretations of the calculations were explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the necessity of accounting for the change in direction of momentum during the bounce, which was initially overlooked in the calculations.

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Homework Statement


A 178.0g ball is dropped from a height of 2.99m, bounces on a hard floor, and rebounds to a height of 1.36m. The impulse received from the floor is shown below.

(Is a picture of a graph, Y-axis is force, X-axis is time. No numbers are labelled and is simply a line starting at 0 and goes to a peak and back down to zero like a triangle)

What maximum force does the floor exert on the ball if it is exerted for 2.00ms

Homework Equations



Impulse = Change in Momentum

Momentum = mv
Ui = mgy
KE = 1/2 mv^2

The Attempt at a Solution


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Ui = mgy
=5.2157
1/2 mv^2 = 5.2157
v=7.655m/s

(to find velocity just as ball hits the ground)

Pi = (0.178)(7.655)
=1.3626

(Initial Momentum)

Finding velocity just as it bounces back from floor
Uf = KEi
v=5.1629m/s

Pf = 0.919

(final momentum)

Change in momentum = 0.433

DeltaP(change in momentum) = 1/2 Fmax (0.002)

Fmax = 443N (not correct answer) where did I go wrong?
 
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Momentum is a vector quantity. You haven't taken into account the change in direction at the bounce.
 
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Did you take into account that momentum is a vector quantity, so it has direction? How does the final direction of momentum compare to the initial direction of momentum?

[EDIT: oops, my post is redundant to gneill's.]
 
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gneill said:
Momentum is a vector quantity. You haven't taken into account the change in direction at the bounce.

Ouch, thanks a lot that negative sign fixed things up!

DeltaP =2.2816 got me the right answer!
 
TSny said:
Did you take into account that momentum is a vector quantity, so it has direction? How does the final direction of momentum compare to the initial direction of momentum?
Yeah that fixed things up :)
 

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