Change In Momentum With No Loss Of Ke

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a ball with an initial momentum of +4.0 kg*m/s that collides with a wall and bounces back without losing kinetic energy. The focus is on determining the change in momentum during this interaction.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster expresses confusion regarding the relationship between conservation of kinetic energy and momentum during the collision. Some participants discuss the conservation of momentum in the context of collisions involving multiple objects and question how momentum can change without a significant loss of kinetic energy.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of momentum and kinetic energy conservation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of momentum as a vector and the implications of direction change on momentum.

Contextual Notes

There appears to be a misunderstanding about the conservation principles at play, particularly regarding the relationship between momentum and kinetic energy in collisions. The original poster's assumptions about energy conservation may be influencing their reasoning.

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Homework Statement


A ball with original momentum of +4.0 kg*m/s hits a wall and bounces straight back without losing any kinetic energy. The change in momentum of the ball is?


Homework Equations


p (momentum) = mv
Impulse = change in p/change in t



The Attempt at a Solution


I thought that if the KE was conserved, then momentum had to be conserved to, so needless to say, I am confused. Any help would be appreciated!
 
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You are correct that momentum is conserved. In fact, it is conserved even if the energy is not. Every collision involves more than one object. In this case there are two objects. Conservation of momentum means that the sum of the momenta of the two objects is conserved, not that the momentum of a single object is conserved.

If you look at the definitions of momentum and kinetic energy you will see that an object can acquire momentum while gaining almost no kinetic energy. (How can this be?) Strictly speaking the ball cannot retain all of its energy when bouncing off the wall, but the amount that it must lose is such a small fraction of what it had to begin with that for all practical purposes it has not lost any.
 
Hint: Momentum is a vector. Momentum can change by changing either the magnitude or the direction, or both. If the momentum changes from (just for example) 10 kg-m/sec to the left to 10 kg-m/sec to the right, what is the change in momentum?
 

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