B Relativistic Energy: Change of Consts. of Integration

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In this super short video of the derivation of the relativistic kinetic energy, , I'm just stuck on one thing. Around 1:00 minute in, the constants of integration change from 0 to pv when the integration changes from dx to dv. Where does the pv come from? Thanks!
 
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SamRoss said:
In this super short video of the derivation of the relativistic kinetic energy, , I'm just stuck on one thing. Around 1:00 minute in, the constants of integration change from 0 to pv when the integration changes from dx to dv. Where does the pv come from? Thanks!


Looks like a mistake to me. Should be v (he annotates a correction to that effect at the 3:00 mark, but as far as I can tell it should come sooner).
 
Also, try this derivation out for size. Note: an overdot indicates a derivative taken with respect to ##ct## (not ##t##).

##\vec{\beta} = \vec v / c##
##\gamma = (1 - \beta^2)^{-1/2}##
##\phi = \tanh^{-1}{\beta}## (giving ##\cosh{\phi} = \gamma## and ##\sinh{\phi} = \gamma \beta## by hyperbolic identities)
##\vec p = \gamma m \vec v##
##\vec f = \dot{\vec p} c = \dfrac{d\vec p c}{d(ct)} = mc^2 \dfrac{d}{d(ct)} (\gamma \vec{\beta}) = mc^2 \dfrac{d}{d(ct)} (\hat{\beta} \sinh{\phi})##.

Now do the work–energy thing:

##\begin{split}
\int^{\vec r_f}_{\vec r_i} \vec f \cdot d \vec r &= mc^2 \int^{\vec r_f}_{\vec r_i} \dfrac{d}{d(ct)} (\hat{\beta} \sinh{\phi}) \cdot d \vec r \\[3pt]
&= mc^2 \int^{\vec r_f}_{\vec r_i} \left( \hat{\beta} \dot{\phi} \cosh{\phi} + \dot{\hat{\beta}} \sinh{\phi} \right) \cdot d \vec r \\[3pt]
&= mc^2 \int^{\vec r_f}_{\vec r_i} \left( \hat{\beta} \cdot d \vec r \right) \cosh{\phi} \, \dfrac{d \phi}{d (ct)}
\end{split}##

(because ##d \vec r## and ##\dot{\hat{\beta}}## are orthogonal). Then change variable using ##d \vec r / d(ct) = \vec \beta = \hat{\beta} \tanh{\phi}##:

##\begin{split}
\int^{\vec r_f}_{\vec r_i} \vec f \cdot d \vec r &= mc^2 \int^{\phi_f}_{\phi_i} \left( \hat{\beta} \cdot \hat{\beta} \right) \tanh{\phi} \, \cosh{\phi} \; d \phi \\[3pt]
&=mc^2 \int^{\phi_f}_{\phi_i} \sinh{\phi} \; d \phi \\[3pt]
&= mc^2 \, \Delta \cosh{\phi} \\[3pt]
&= mc^2 \Delta \gamma ,
\end{split}##

etc.
 
SiennaTheGr8 said:
Looks like a mistake to me. Should be v (he annotates a correction to that effect at the 3:00 mark, but as far as I can tell it should come sooner).
Thanks. That's a load off my mind. And thanks for the alternate derivation as well.
 
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