Change of speed of a car turning in circles

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The discussion revolves around the physics of a car turning in circles, specifically focusing on the role of friction and work in relation to changes in speed and kinetic energy.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the implications of friction doing no work and question how a car can stop while turning in circles. Some suggest the presence of a tangential component of friction that contributes to deceleration.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants examining different interpretations of friction's role in circular motion and the conditions under which a car can stop. There is no explicit consensus, but various perspectives are being shared.

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Participants note that the car driver is neither accelerating nor braking, which raises questions about the forces at play during circular motion.

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My textbook says : "The friction force on a car turning a corner does no work."

I agree somewhat. However, if there is no work, there is no change of speed, aka no change of kinetic energy.

How can a car in a real-life stop if it is doing perfect circles with forces pointing towards the center of those circles?

Is there another component of friction in play?
 
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I forgot to mention: I imply that the car driver is neither pushing the gas pedal nor the brakes!
 
alingy1 said:
My textbook says : "The friction force on a car turning a corner does no work."

I agree somewhat. However, if there is no work, there is no change of speed, aka no change of kinetic energy.

How can a car in a real-life stop if it is doing perfect circles with forces pointing towards the center of those circles?

Is there another component of friction in play?

Yes...There has to be a component of friction in tangential direction providing the required deceleration (i.e causing the speed to reduce ) .
 
alingy1 said:
My textbook says : "The friction force on a car turning a corner does no work."

I agree somewhat. However, if there is no work, there is no change of speed, aka no change of kinetic energy.

How can a car in a real-life stop if it is doing perfect circles with forces pointing towards the center of those circles?

Is there another component of friction in play?

The car does not stop when turning a corner - it moves along a circle.

Its velocity changes direction, but not magnitude. The speed stay constant.

When a car stops, some force is applied parallel to its velocity, opposite to it.

ehild
 
Tania beating me again:biggrin:

ehild
 
ehild said:
Tania beating me again:biggrin:

I saw you typing but didn’t notice you were replying to this thread :wink:
 

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