Change orbit from circle to parabola

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The problem involves a spaceship transitioning from a circular orbit to a parabolic trajectory around a planet by applying thrust. The original poster seeks to determine the necessary increase in speed, represented by a factor f, when thrust is applied tangentially. Additionally, they inquire about the effects of thrust applied in different directions and the implications for the distance of closest approach.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between energy and orbital eccentricity, noting that for a circular orbit, the eccentricity is zero, while for a parabolic trajectory, it is one. There are inquiries about defining specific symbols used in the equations and expressing kinetic energy in terms of various parameters.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on symbols and attempting to express kinetic energy in relevant terms. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between energy changes and speed, but no consensus has been reached on the next steps to solve for the factor f.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the information they can provide or assume. The original poster's understanding of the problem setup and the definitions of variables are also under scrutiny.

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1(a) Homework Statement

A spaceship travels in a circular orbit around a planet. It applies a sudden
thrust and increases its speed by a factor f . If the goal is to change the
orbit from a circle to a parabola, what should f be if the thrust points in the tangential direction?

1(b) Is your answer any different if the thrust points
in some other direction? What is the distance of closest approach if the
thrust points in the radial direction?


Homework Equations


Kepler’s laws


The Attempt at a Solution


We know that for circle, ε=0; for parabola ε=1
We also know that [itex]ε=\sqrt{1+\frac{2EL^{2}}{m\alpha^{2}}}[/itex]
So [itex]E=-\frac{m\alpha^{2}}{2L^{2}}[/itex] for ε=0
[itex]E=0[/itex] for ε=1

But I don't know what to do next in order to find the increased factor f
 
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Hello. Could you please define the symbols ##\alpha## and ##L##?

Can you express the kinetic energy of the ship in terms of ##m##, ##\alpha## and ##L## before and after the thrust?
 
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TSny said:
Hello. Could you please define the symbols ##\alpha## and ##L##?

Can you express the kinetic energy of the ship in terms of ##m##, ##\alpha## and ##L## before and after the thrust?

[itex]V(r)=-\frac{\alpha}{r}[/itex]
So [itex]\alpha=GMm[/itex]

[itex]L[/itex] is angular momentum.

I think it is possible to express KE in terms of m and L but not [itex]\alpha[/itex].
But what should I do next?
 
athrun200 said:
[itex]V(r)=-\frac{\alpha}{r}[/itex]
So [itex]\alpha=GMm[/itex]

[itex]L[/itex] is angular momentum.

I think it is possible to express KE in terms of m and L but not [itex]\alpha[/itex].
But what should I do next?

ok. Express kinetic energy in terms of ##\alpha## and ##r## using E= KE + V
You can assume ##r## remains constant during the thrust. So you should be able to relate initial and final speeds since you know how E changes. Instead of expressing E in terms of L, try to express E in terms of r for a circular orbit.
 

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