Changing the Limits of Integration

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the process of changing the limits of integration when performing a substitution in integral calculus, specifically using the example of calculating work done by a force along the x-axis. The focus is on understanding the rationale behind changing limits from x-values to u-values after a substitution is made.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a problem involving the calculation of work using an integral and mentions the substitution u = 1 + x, leading to a change in limits from [0, 9] to [1, 10].
  • Another participant explains that when substituting u for x, the limits must also change to reflect the new variable, providing the calculations for the new limits.
  • A request for further elaboration on the reasoning behind changing the limits is made, indicating a desire for a more basic explanation.
  • A participant reiterates that the limits of integration must correspond to the new variable u, showing the transformation of the integral from x to u and confirming the new limits.
  • One suggestion includes visualizing the change of variables through graphs, illustrating how the area under the curve changes with the new limits.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the necessity of changing the limits of integration when performing a substitution, but there is a request for clarification on the underlying reasoning, indicating some uncertainty or need for further explanation.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express a need for a more basic understanding of the substitution process and the implications for limits of integration, suggesting that the discussion may involve varying levels of familiarity with the topic.

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Ive seen some example of U substitution where the limits of integration are changed for example, Say we have a particle pushed along the x-axis with force=10/(1+x)^2 and we want the work required to move it 9 ft.

so Work = the integral from [0,9] of 10/(1+x)^2(dx) U substitution gives

u=1+x
du=dx

the 10 is factored out tilll the end.

Ok so, in this example at x=0, U=1 and at x=9, U=10

Now the new limits are [1,10] instead if [0,9]. But Why?
 
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You have limits x=0 to x=9. When you substitute u = 1 + x, you no longer integrate with respect to x. You integrate with respect to u, so you must make sure to change the limits to values of u, instead of x. Luckily you have a nice formula for u. When x=0, u = 1+0 = 1, when x=9, u = 1+9 = 10. So you now want to integrate from u=1 to u=10. Does this help?
 
no longer integrate with respect to x --> You integrate with respect to u, so you must make sure to change the limits to values of u

Can you elaborate more on this? Get basic if you have to. If you don't want to that is also ok.
 
The limits of integration in
\int_{x= 0}^9 \frac{dx}{(1+ x)^2}
are x values. When you make the substituion u= 1+ x, you must change everything from "x" to "u". When x= 0, u= 1+ 0= 1 and when x= 9, u= 1+ 9= 10:

\int_{u= 1}^{10} \frac{du}{u^2}

(It's not a bad idea to actually write the "x= " or "u= " in the integral like that. Especially when you get to double and triple integrals.)

Notice that this is -1/u so evaluating betweeen 1 and 10 gives -1/10+ 1= 9/10.

If you go back to "x" the integral is -1/(x+ 1) which you evaluate between 0 and 9: -1/(9+ 1)- (-1/(0+1)= -1/10+ 1= 9/10 again.
 
Maybe it would also help to draw some graphs that represent the change of variables.

If you plot y = 1+x on an xy-plane, it is just a line that starts at x=1 with slope 1. Take note of what the area looks like under the plot on [0,9].

Then plot v = u on a uv-plane, which is just a line that starts at u=0 with slope 1 (it's the above graph shifted down). If we find the area under this new graph on [0,9], it will clearly be less than the area on the original graph. If we instead calculate the area on [1,10], it will then be the same. The good news is that the function u = 1+x tells us exactly how to change the limits of integration.
 

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