Charge Conservation in Plasma Physics

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This discussion focuses on charge conservation in plasma physics, particularly in a model where a laser interacts with a charge-neutral plasma, generating a high-energy electron beam. The participants analyze the implications of local and global charge conservation using the Lorentz force law, continuity equation, and Ampere's law. The concern arises from the potential violation of charge conservation when considering the creation of charge distributions in different reference frames. The consensus is that while local charge conservation is strictly obeyed, the global perspective can lead to unphysical scenarios, especially when neglecting the role of positive ions in the plasma.

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  • Understanding of the Lorentz force law in plasma physics
  • Familiarity with hyperbolic partial differential equations (PDEs)
  • Knowledge of the continuity equation and Ampere's law
  • Basic concepts of charge conservation in physics
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  • Study Francis Chen's textbook on introductory plasma physics for foundational principles
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  • Research the mathematical treatment of charge conservation in different reference frames
  • Investigate advanced models of plasma behavior under laser interaction
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I have been working with someone on plasma physics. We have a simple model of a laser hitting a charge neutral plasma. The laser promotes the electrons in the plasma into a high energy electron beam. We have been looking at the problem in 1D using the Lorentz force law, the conservation of number density and Ampere's law, these form a set of first order hyperbolic PDEs.

My colleague is concerned with conservation of charge, he says that as the plasma was initially charge neutral then the total charge (included in the electron beam) must remain zero. I thought that all we had to show was that:
<br /> \nabla\cdot\mathbf{J}+\frac{\partial\rho}{\partial t}=0<br />
He calculated
<br /> Q=\int_{0}^{\infty}\rho dx<br />
He wanted this to be zero. Is this right?
 
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The first equation is local charge conservation and is strictly obeyed. The second one is global charge conservation. Using the second equation would allow you to create a positive charge on one place and a negative charge someplace else. Since simultaneity is observer-dependent for widely separated points, charge conservation would appear to be violated in some reference frames.
 
He managed to creates a delta function of +ve charge at x=0, so the whole thing turns out to be zero, was this correct?
 
Is is not physical. Such charge creation will lead to unphysical effects like non-transverse radiation fields.
 
As we're not injecting any electron into the system the global charge should remain zero (this was his argument), If we calculate the charge in the electron beam produced my the laser then we get a non-zero answer.

What should we be doing?

Thanks for your help by the way.
 
Maybe you are forgetting the ions that are left behind when you strip off the electrons. Have you looked at say Francis Chen's textbook? He has a very good book on introductory plasma physics that starts with basic classical first principles. It may give you the examples that you are looking for in terms of how to apply the Lorentz force and charge conservation when it comes to a plasma.
 
We're only looking at a simple 1D model to start with, how would we incorporate the positive ions in our 1D model. The equations we're using for the 1D equations are the Lorentz equation:
<br /> \gamma^{3}(v)\Bigg(\frac{\partial v}{\partial t}+v\frac{\partial v}{\partial x}\Bigg)=-\frac{e}{m}E<br />
The continuity equation
<br /> \frac{\partial n}{\partial t}+\frac{\partial}{\partial x}(nv)=0<br />
And Ampere's law
<br /> \frac{\partial E}{\partial t}+a_{1}E+a_{2}nv=0<br />
Where the a_{i} are some constants defining the current in the plasma. Is there a way of dealing with the positive ions in this simple mode or do we have to give with the fact that this model is just too simplistic?

Mat
 

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