Charged Sphere sliced, force required to keep them as they were

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The problem involves a uniformly charged metallic sphere that is sliced into two parts, and the objective is to determine the minimum force required to keep the two halves together. The context revolves around concepts in electrostatics, particularly electric pressure and the behavior of electric fields in charged conductors.

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  • Participants discuss the use of electric pressure and its derivation, with one participant expressing confusion about the concept and questioning whether traditional methods like Coulomb's law can be applied. Others suggest that using electric field concepts could simplify the problem.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the concepts involved and exploring different methods to approach the problem. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of electric fields and their relationship to force, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach.

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One participant notes a lack of understanding of the electric field concept, which may affect their ability to solve the problem using conventional methods. There is also mention of the complexity involved in using Coulomb's law directly.

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A metallic sphere of radius R is cut in two parts along a plane whose minimum distance from the sphere's centre is h and the sphere is uniformly charged by a total electric charge Q. What minimum force is necessary to hold the two parts of the sphere together?

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The solution which we were "encouraged" to come up was using a term called "electric pressure", defined as the electrostatic force per unit area. By multiplying it with the base area of the cross-section obtained after slicing the sphere, I got the answer.

[tex]P_{el}=\frac{\sigma ^{2}}{2\varepsilon _{0}}; \; \sigma =\frac{Q}{4\pi R^2}[/tex]
[tex]F_{el}=P_{el}\times S; \; S=\pi(R^2-h^2)[/tex]
[tex]F_{el}=\frac{\frac{Q^2}{16\pi^2R^4}}{2\varepsilon_{0}}\times \pi(R^2-h^2)=\frac{Q^2(R^2-h^2)}{32\pi\varepsilon_{0}R^4}[/tex]

Now I actually didn't get the concept here, what was that supposed to mean. Isn't there a conventional way to solve this problem?
 
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Hi AGNuke. I'm not too clear on what specific question you are asking. Are you asking why the pressure is given by σ2/2εo or are you asking why the force is given by F = P*[itex]\pi[/itex](R2-h2)? Or are you asking something else?

The expression for the pressure can be obtained in a fairly conventional way by considering the force on a small patch of area of the surface of a charged conductor.
 
TSny, I am sorry if I was unable to convey my question properly, but I am asking that can I solve this question using coulomb's law and some other textbook stuff like properties of conductors, etc.?

I mean, if I don't know the concept of electric field (which I am still trying to justify, even if for a sphere), can I solve it? If so, then what should I do? (Coulomb's Law?)
 
A direct integration using Coulomb's law is a bit messy. Using the following concepts involving electric field makes it a lot easier:

(1) The relation between force and electric field: F = qE

(2) The relation between electric field at the surface of a conductor and the charge density: E = σ/εo

(3) The electric field produced by a large flat sheet of uniform charge density: E = σ/2εo

The latter 2 properties are easily derived from Gauss' law.
 

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