Chemical Formulas: Interpreting Single Atom Reactions

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The discussion centers on the interpretation of chemical formulas, specifically the combustion of methane ($CH_4 + 2O_2 -> CO_2 + 2H_2O$), in the context of thermodynamic quantities like standard enthalpy of reaction ($H_r$). It is established that enthalpies are applicable to macroscopic quantities of substances rather than single molecules. While it is theoretically possible to analyze the reaction at the molecular level, practical insights into energetics require consideration of internal energies and kinetic states of all reactants and products. Reference to Glassman's book "Combustion" is recommended for deeper understanding of the complexities involved.

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  • Understanding of standard enthalpy of reaction ($H_r$)
  • Familiarity with chemical reaction equations
  • Knowledge of thermodynamic equilibrium concepts
  • Basic principles of physical chemistry
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  • Study the internal energy states of reactants and products in chemical reactions
  • Explore the concept of thermodynamic equilibrium in detail
  • Read Glassman's "Combustion" for insights into reaction complexities
  • Investigate the role of kinetic energy in chemical reactions
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This is a very basic question. When I see a chemical formula, like for example combustion of methane: $CH_4+2O_2->CO_2+2H_20$ and I compute the standard enthalpy of reaction $H_r$, do I have always to think about this value $H$ and about the chemical reaction as describing a "certain amount", big from the microscopic point of view
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, of methane reacting with a certain amount of oxygen? Told another way, is it possible to interpret the chemical formula as describing a reaction between a single atom of methane with a singole molecule of oxygen (with no other methane molecules or oxygen present?)
My answer would be no, because we have always to talk about substances in thermodynamic equilibrium but I wanted to ask the opinion of somebody more expert than me.
 
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tirrel said:
This is a very basic question. When I see a chemical formula, like for example combustion of methane: $CH_4+2O_2->CO_2+2H_20$ and I compute the standard enthalpy of reaction $H_r$, do I have always to think about this value $H$ and about the chemical reaction as describing a "certain amount", big from the microscopic point of view
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, of methane reacting with a certain amount of oxygen? Told another way, is it possible to interpret the chemical formula as describing a reaction between a single atom of methane with a singole molecule of oxygen (with no other methane molecules or oxygen present?)
My answer would be no, because we have always to talk about substances in thermodynamic equilibrium but I wanted to ask the opinion of somebody more expert than me.

You are right. Enthalpies (and other thermodynamic quantitites) are for macroscopic quantities of material. If you talk about the energy for a reaction of a single molecule of methane with two molecules of oxygen producing a molecule of carbon dioxide and 2 molecules of water, you can. Physical chemists do this kind of experiment, but if you want to learn something about the energetics of the reaction you would need to stipulate the energies (internal) of all reactants and products -- i.e. what rotational, vibrational states are we talking about? You would also need to say something about the kinetic energies of the reactants and products. In the case you give, this would probably not be too meaningful, since the reaction is quite complex. Look at Glassman's book, "Combustion" to see the complexity of this simple chemical reaction.
 

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