Chemical kinetics diagramm -> chemical equation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the interpretation of chemical kinetics diagrams and the formulation of corresponding chemical equations. Participants are analyzing three different diagrams to derive general chemical equations that represent the reactions depicted, focusing on the relationships between reactants and products.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a reaction sequence for the third diagram as blue \xrightarrow{k_{1}} red \xrightarrow{k_{2}} yellow, suggesting that k2 is significantly larger than k1 due to the low curve of the intermediates.
  • Another participant suggests that in the first case, green is produced long after red has disappeared, proposing a sequence of b->r->y->g as logical.
  • Concerns are raised about the second diagram, with one participant noting that it could involve a reversible reaction between r and y.
  • Another participant questions the timing of peaks in the reaction sequence, suggesting that the second substance would peak before the third, and discusses the implications of rapid equilibrium on the curves of the second and third substances.
  • A later reply indicates that the participant has gained a better understanding of the problem after considering the feedback from others.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the sequences and relationships between the reactants and products in the diagrams. There is no consensus on the exact chemical equations for the first and second diagrams, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding these specific interpretations.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully established the assumptions underlying their proposed reaction sequences, and there are unresolved questions about the reversibility of reactions and the timing of peaks in the concentration curves.

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Hi everyone

Homework Statement



I got the three different diagramms (attached below) and I shall find a general chemical equation for all of them.



Homework Equations



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The Attempt at a Solution



I think I know how to do the third one, but I have troubles with the first and second one, because I have four different reactants. My thoughts for the third one are the following:

blue \xrightarrow{k_{1}} red \xrightarrow{k_{2}} yellow

whereas k2 is far bigger than k1 because the intermediates curve is low, which says that it reacts fast.

Can anyone approve this? Furthermore I need some hints for the first and second one. I'm absoulety not sure if I have something like red+yellow ->green or something like red->yellow->green

Thank you for your help in advance.
 

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Looks to me like in the first case green is still produced long after all red disappeared, so b->r->y->g looks the most logical. I am not so sure about the second. Could be r<->y is easily reversible.
 
The first and the last in the series are evident I hope, so the only problem is the middle two.

I can't see any way the second substance in the reaction sequence wouldn't peak before the third, can you?

For Borek's suggestion of reversibility, if by that he means the second an third substance are in rapid equilibrium then they would peak at the same time, in fact the two curves would be identical when one is multiplied by the right factor.
 
Thanks to both of you, I think I understood it now a bit better.
 

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